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Old 09-08-2022, 12:32 PM #51
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If anyone wants to actually listen to hunter talking about his addiction, how much of a mess he's been in, and even the laptop, then here he is.

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I don’t know about anybody else but the so called party of “law and order” only ever seem to like it when the law isn’t upheld against them specifically, it’s almost like they believe they should be above the law
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What was on CNN HD? Did the FBI raid Hunter Biden's home? Did they raid Joe Biden? What was on CNN? did they just finally admit that the conspiracy theorists were right and the laptop does exist and then quickly drop that story and move on to something else?

It's all connected where do you get the idea that all these incidents are all icolated?

On Sunday
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That Hunter Biden is a Problem for President Biden,
As the FBI are now looking into his crimes.


I thnk it would better if he was dead.
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Matt Gaetz isn't a senator for starters, and he's currently under investigation for child sex trafficking, which was started when trump was pres

Of course it's not good enough. It's perfectly clear that the aim is to keep it in the news rather than making direct accusations that can easily be refuted, or maybe not so easily refuted and they could be prosecuted.

If I accuse someone of a crime and you then ask me what crime, if my reply is "ooooh, it's serious, really bad", then you're within your rights to think I'm talking bollocks. all these republicans have seen it, and not one of them has said anything more than "ooooh, it's serious, really bad."
House representive then.

Show me your evidence of Gaetz child sex trafficking? You must have the evidence if you're claiming investigations against him exist? That's how it works, right?
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If anyone wants to actually listen to hunter talking about his addiction, how much of a mess he's been in, and even the laptop, then here he is.

Give us some time lines on the video where I need to listen. I ain't got an hour 45 to waste on this.
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House representive then.

Show me your evidence of Gaetz child sex trafficking? You must have the evidence if you're claiming investigations against him exist? That's how it works, right?
No, it doesn't work like that. I can tell you exactly the crime he is being investigated for, and that an investigation is well underway with co-operating witnesses. Now you do the same with hunters crimes, and we'll finally be in the same place
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Trumpism, at this point, is a mental health epidemic
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Give us some time lines on the video where I need to listen. I ain't got an hour 45 to waste on this.
I heard the podcast ages ago, I'm not going through the whole vid to time stamp it. I'm just providing the interview - it's your choice to listen to it or not.
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House representive then.

Show me your evidence of Gaetz child sex trafficking? You must have the evidence if you're claiming investigations against him exist? That's how it works, right?
Representative Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida and a close ally of former President Donald J. Trump, is being investigated by the Justice Department over whether he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old and paid for her to travel with him, according to three people briefed on the matter.

Investigators are examining whether Mr. Gaetz violated federal sex trafficking laws, the people said. A variety of federal statutes make it illegal to induce someone under 18 to travel over state lines to engage in sex in exchange for money or something of value. The Justice Department regularly prosecutes such cases, and offenders often receive severe sentences.

It was not clear how Mr. Gaetz met the girl, believed to be 17 at the time of encounters about two years ago that investigators are scrutinizing, according to two of the people.


The investigation was opened in the final months of the Trump administration under Attorney General William P. Barr, the two people said. Given Mr. Gaetz’s national profile, senior Justice Department officials in Washington — including some appointed by Mr. Trump — were notified of the investigation, the people said.

[Read more on what we know about the investigation of Matt Gaetz.]

The three people said that the examination of Mr. Gaetz, 38, is part of a broader investigation into a political ally of his, a local official in Florida named Joel Greenberg, who was indicted last summer on an array of charges, including sex trafficking of a child and financially supporting people in exchange for sex, at least one of whom was an underage girl.

Mr. Greenberg, who has since resigned his post as tax collector in Seminole County, north of Orlando, visited the White House with Mr. Gaetz in 2019, according to a photograph that Mr. Greenberg posted on Twitter.

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No, it doesn't work like that. I can tell you exactly the crime he is being investigated for, and that an investigation is well underway with co-operating witnesses. Now you do the same with hunters crimes, and we'll finally be in the same place
I've just posted you a video of Gaetz who claims he's in possession of the laptop and he suggests things about Hunters business deals with foreign countries that could be a national security threat and possibly put Fake President Biden in a position to be blackmailed by those countries.

That's a huge threat to us all in the West.

If Gaetz is in possession of this do you think the deep state would want to smear him with something to take the scent off of them? They investigated Trump for almost all his Presidency with the Russia collusion stuff and it turned out to be made up bull. Is it possible they might be doing the same with Gaetz?

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Representative Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida and a close ally of former President Donald J. Trump, is being investigated by the Justice Department over whether he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old and paid for her to travel with him, according to three people briefed on the matter.

Investigators are examining whether Mr. Gaetz violated federal sex trafficking laws, the people said. A variety of federal statutes make it illegal to induce someone under 18 to travel over state lines to engage in sex in exchange for money or something of value. The Justice Department regularly prosecutes such cases, and offenders often receive severe sentences.

It was not clear how Mr. Gaetz met the girl, believed to be 17 at the time of encounters about two years ago that investigators are scrutinizing, according to two of the people.


The investigation was opened in the final months of the Trump administration under Attorney General William P. Barr, the two people said. Given Mr. Gaetz’s national profile, senior Justice Department officials in Washington — including some appointed by Mr. Trump — were notified of the investigation, the people said.

[Read more on what we know about the investigation of Matt Gaetz.]

The three people said that the examination of Mr. Gaetz, 38, is part of a broader investigation into a political ally of his, a local official in Florida named Joel Greenberg, who was indicted last summer on an array of charges, including sex trafficking of a child and financially supporting people in exchange for sex, at least one of whom was an underage girl.

Mr. Greenberg, who has since resigned his post as tax collector in Seminole County, north of Orlando, visited the White House with Mr. Gaetz in 2019, according to a photograph that Mr. Greenberg posted on Twitter.

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Do you find it odd that Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years for child sex trafficking yet not one of her clients have been investigated but Gaetz is fair game for investigation on what exactly?
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I've just posted you a video of Gaetz who claims he's in possession of the laptop and he suggests things about Hunters business deals with foreign countries that could be a national security threat and possibly put Fake President Biden in a position to be blackmailed by those countries.

That's a huge threat to us all in the West.

If Gaetz is in possession of this do you think the deep state would want to smear him with something to take the scent of them? They investigated Trump for almost all his Presidency with the Russia collusion stuff and it turned out to be made up bull. Is it possible they might be doing the same with Gaetz?
I watched the twitter vid you posted, and it was nothing more than whispers/innuendo.

I think Gaetz's own venmo evidence probably means that the imaginary deep state doesn't need to get involved.

What I don't understand with you Alf, is that you seem relatively anti-establishment, and yet the right is the most powerful political ideology around, and yet you fall in lockstep with everything they tell you.

The Russia collusion stuff wasn't proved to be nothing at all. Lots of people went to jail, and Mueller - the author of the report believed he'd left it open for Trump to be prosecuted when he left office. Bill Barr shut all that down to protect Trump.
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Do you find it odd that Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years for child sex trafficking yet not one of her clients have been investigated but Gaetz is fair game for investigation on what exactly?
I agree with you completely about Maxwell. The lack of curiosity they showed to protect the powerful is shameful.
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If anyone wants to actually listen to hunter talking about his addiction, how much of a mess he's been in, and even the laptop, then here he is.

This isn't bitesize tidbits from twitter
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Judge Reinhart signed the warrant.

I bet he has a dark past.
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I bet he has a dark past.
Good question. What are the odds?

I wish TS was here to give us some odds.



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What difference does it make if he was? Especially as Trump himself was a well known "friend" of Epstein.

Never anything concrete beyond whispers and innuendo.
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What difference does it make if he was? Especially as Trump himself was a well known "friend" of Epstein.

Never anything concrete beyond whispers and innuendo.
Sorry for evidence gathering and trying to put the jigsaw pieces together. I'll shut up and say nothing shall I?

You're coming across very privliged thinking that everything should be laid out on your lap as concrete. As if a guy on his phone in Hull, England just trying to make sense of things and discussing it on a forum should have only concrete evidence or stay quiet.

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Sorry for evidence gathering and trying to put the jigsaw pieces together. I'll shut up and say nothing shall I?

You're coming across very privliged thinking that everything should be laid out on your lap as concrete. As if a guy on his phone in Hull, England just trying to make sense of things and discussing it on a forum should have only concrete evidence or stay quiet.
so what your saying is that you readily accept BS when it's peddled by Trump and his cronies, but demand hard evidence from everyone else
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