[arista]

Yes that Evil Terorrist
wanted to Kill him.

Even Stabbed his Liver

Public grabbed the Evil Muslim Terrorist
held him down until Police arrived

[thesheriff443]

The ira once said the following about Margret thatcher.

She has to be lucky a hundred times, we only have to be lucky once.

He should of had better protection around.

[arista]

Yes big error to not have Private Security there
that would have stopped the amount of Stabbings he got

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by Alf

Anyone else realising that your freedom of speech is under attack in the West yet?

"Freedom of speech does not entitle one to falsely shout fire in a crowded theatre"

Salman Rushdie wrote a work that is seen as Blasphemous, and he should have known that it was so. He should also have known how seriously the Islamic world considers Blaspheme. Remember the disgraceful cartoons of the Holy Prophet Mohammed, and the hurt that caused?

He trampled on the feelings of millions of people with that book, and his work has been responsible for many deaths. Blaspheme is a bit more than a mild insult. The word comes from two Greek words which translate as "Injurious speech". Lets not forget the tax payers money that was used to protect him here in the UK

Salman has been the author of his own misfortune.

Even in the UK you can be prosecuted for things you say and write under UK law.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Even in the UK you can be prosecuted for things you say and write under UK law.

But blasphemy is not one of them

[Sticks]

Incitement to racial hatred is one area that the law covers, say something anti-Semitic or Islamophobic and you can be prosecuted.

At one time we did have a Blaspheme law, which was used by Mary Whitehouse to successfully prosecute the editors of Gay News for publishing a blasphemous poem about Jesus.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Sticks

. Remember the disgraceful cartoons of the Holy Prophet Mohammed, and the hurt that caused?

They weren't disgraceful at all. If anyone gets "hurt" over paedophile warlord being cartooned, they're the problem.

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

They weren't disgraceful at all. If anyone gets "hurt" over paedophile warlord being cartooned, they're the problem.

They were so disgraceful and insulting that not a single tabloid in the UK printed them.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Sticks

They were so disgraceful and insulting that not a single tabloid in the UK printed them.

Only because they knew they'd get murdered. That's the disgraceful part of it.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Sticks

"Freedom of speech does not entitle one to falsely shout fire in a crowded theatre"

Salman Rushdie wrote a work that is seen as Blasphemous, and he should have known that it was so. He should also have known how seriously the Islamic world considers Blaspheme. Remember the disgraceful cartoons of the Holy Prophet Mohammed, and the hurt that caused?

He trampled on the feelings of millions of people with that book, and his work has been responsible for many deaths. Blaspheme is a bit more than a mild insult. The word comes from two Greek words which translate as "Injurious speech". Lets not forget the tax payers money that was used to protect him here in the UK

Salman has been the author of his own misfortune.

Even in the UK you can be prosecuted for things you say and write under UK law.

But shouting "fire" in a theatre isn't really one's own opinion on something, unless there really was a fire. It's a dangerous act.

Having an opinion and being critical of an idea is totally different.

The fact someone has to resort to violence instead of debate against that opinion shows up their interpretation of the idea to not seem very logical and shows them to be a danger to a free society, a danger like someone shouting "fire" in a theatre.

[Alf]

I saw Geert Wilders also receiving similar threats on twitter yesterday.

[Sticks]

To paraphrase what the late Dennis Thatcher (Maggie Thatchers husband), said to Sarah Ferguson, "If you don't want to be harpooned, don't come up to spout"

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Sticks

To paraphrase what the late Dennis Thatcher (Maggie Thatchers husband), said to Sarah Ferguson, "If you don't want to be harpooned, don't come up to spout"

So just shut up to appease terrorists?

[Sticks]

Or

"If you cant say anything nice about someone, don't say anything else at all" - Mrs Marge Simpson

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Or

"If you cant say anything nice about someone, don't say anything else at all" - Mrs Marge Simpson

sticks you are a coward

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Sticks

To paraphrase what the late Dennis Thatcher (Maggie Thatchers husband), said to Sarah Ferguson, "If you don't want to be harpooned, don't come up to spout"

Every other religion is subject to mockery.....this one should be no exception

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Or

"If you cant say anything nice about someone, don't say anything else at all" - Mrs Marge Simpson

I actually read today that when Rushdie wrote the Satanic Verses, he didn't mean to offen, he wanted to test the boundaries of free speech, he came from a Muslim family, he didn't want to offend

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Or

"If you cant say anything nice about someone, don't say anything else at all" - Mrs Marge Simpson

Yes let’s not say anything about the Muslim gangs raping young vulnerable girls because may upset some Muslims.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Or

"If you cant say anything nice about someone, don't say anything else at all" - Mrs Marge Simpson

But if we did that then it would be a very humourless existance. Also there would be no need for politics, it wouldn't exist. It's a very oppressive belief.

[Alf]

Would you favour a theocratic society Sticks?

[Alf]

That's one thing were I'm not on board with many Trump supporters. Their worship of God as the all powerful.

On judgement day do we get a lawyer and an appeals process?

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by Alf

Would you favour a theocratic society Sticks?

We already have one.

The UK and Iran are the only two countries where clerics have a right to sit parliament and vote on legislation as a matter of right.

[LeatherTrumpet]

"Islamaphobia"

does not exist

People f off about Islamic terrorists

does exist

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Sticks

We already have one.

The UK and Iran are the only two countries where clerics have a right to sit parliament and vote on legislation as a matter of right.

Well to be fair, we're a bit of everything. We're not a total theocratic society.

[arista]

Originally Posted by arista

He sticks up for you
Alf