[molecular]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
I think that you can only be the "winner" in a debate if you take the time to understand and accept where the other person is coming from, clearly Ruth has done this. She has read your posts and responded in an appropriate manner. You however have retaliated in a childish "I win" manner which just shows that you do not have the capacity to debate in a mature way.

Ruth I salute you for managing to remain mature even when someone is trying to provoke you into reacting in an immature manner.

whatever man whatever thats all i sayin

official - mccartney vain to think anyone would fancy him so he deserves everythin he get cause these two say so and support each other in everythin they say no matter how silly it is
whatever man - whatever
oh lets not forget george harison songs are better than strawberry field forever,yesterday,day in the life,hey jude,help,hard day night,please please me,we can work it out,all you needs love,she leaving home,tomorrow never know,elener rigby,let it be,two of us,dig a pony,come together,across universe,sorry cant carry on im lauging to much. real intellgent opinoins we dealin with

ps dont worry bout the insults an name callin ruth i got a thick skin im not to bothered

[Ruth]

Do you understand the difference between 'official' and 'opinion'?

Do you understand that I am entitled to prefer 'Something' to 'Yesterday'?

Do you understand that as neither of us know Paul McCartney (I'm guessing you don't), I'm just as entitled to an opinion about him as you are?

Do you understand that I never said any of what I said was 'official'?

Do you understand that - shock, horror - not everybody has to agree with you?

Do you understand that in laughing at my opinions, you are being far ruder to me than I have been to you?

Do you understand that even if someone hates every song the Beatles ever made, that's fine too? That we are all entitled to an opinion?


Actually, don't bother answering - I'm putting you on Ignore again - do the same to me if you want.

[molecular]

ye ye i undertsand al tnhat. you really convinced yopuself you a whole lot cleverer than me havnt you. anyway all i was doing was drawing attention to this ridicuous comment

Originally posted by Ruth
it serves him right for being vain enough to believe that she ever wanted him for anything more than his money.

and its done now so all the other stuff dont matter much but i will teach you one thing about opinion.
'james blunt write better songs than bob dylan'-that could be a opinion but anyone who has a clue what they talking about knows it completely stupid thing to say.

[Sunny_01]

I see when someone manages to stop you in your tracks you take to the "whatever" route, well that highlights your inability to discuss things in a mature manner.

[molecular]

stop me in my tracks. is that what happened

it look to me like you just trying to side with you friend(schoolgirl tactic) didnt notice anythin true

[Ruth]

Honestly, I don't know why I'm bothering to reply again (I thought I had you on ignore, but I must not have). Anyway - regarding your comment about Bob Dylan - yeah, I agree with you in that in my opinion, Bob Dylan writes far better songs than James Blunt. But if someone else said that they thought James Blunt's songs were better, I would never think they were being stupid. I would just think that they had different taste to me. Unlike you, I don't think that what I think is the be-all and end-all.

As for whether I think I'm a lot cleverer than you - no I don't. I think you are incapable of having a rational debate though.

Sunny - thank you very much for your support - I do appreciate it Sorry that you came in for a bit of stick because of it though.

I'm going to leave this thread alone now, because I have no doubt that despite what anyone says ever, Molecular will always be convinced that s/he (sorry Molecular, I don't know if you are male or female) is right, and anyone who doesn't agree is stupid.

[molecular]

Originally posted by Ruth
I have no doubt that despite what anyone says ever, Molecular will always be convinced that s/he (sorry Molecular, I don't know if you are male or female) is right, and anyone who doesn't agree is stupid.

god you go so over the top and dramatic just to avoid amitting your wrong. i see that alot rounf here

[Ruth]

slowly....bangs.....head......against........keybo ard

[molecular]

for gods sake ruth calm down will you. its only rock an roll. how about we talk about someting else in another topic from now on fox huntin or northern ireland up to you

[northcircular]

well this four page discussion seems to have taken a turn for the worse. If it was a married couple arguing; I might say it would end in divorce from what a read. I'll try and offer a civilised response which for me; isn't difficult. as i do it often.

I love the beatles; always have, always will. I did assume that most of the songs were written by; lennon/mccartney. not george harrison. however I am no expert on the matter; not that it really matters in this divorce settlement anyhow.

I also like james blunt; but have never liked bob dylan. I find his vocals rather excruciating to be honest; I don't think I'm alone on that opinion. he did right some very good songs though and he is very talented and very rich to. I feel that he is very likely to die in the middle of a tour; no man/woman or child shall prevent him from singing on those many stages; he's been on that many all over the globe. I certainly couldn't manage what he has achieved; but I'd be much happier at a james blunt concert; which I may goto one day.

in regards to who is the best songwriters; well that is always up to the fan of the artist or group. personal preferance basically. I'd be honest and say that they are all equally good songwriters and nobody should really say for sure which is better; because it can't be proven. just because an artist or a group is successful; doesn't mean that they are better songwriters than someone who is less successful; does it?

anyway I can see this divorce settlement that paul mccartney and heather mills/mccartney are going through is never going to be easy. I really can't say that we can blame any one of them in particular; only they know the real truth. perhaps she only wanted him for his money. perhaps she really loved him; but paul mccartney treated her badly in some way or they just couldn't get along like paul and linda mccartney got along. they were together for a long time and when linda died; it hit paul really badly and then trying to rekindle the feelings he once had with linda and try to replace her with heather just didn't work for him. perhaps he reacted badly; who can really say.

I know heather is seeking a large amount of money off paul and it may be too much. heather will have her reasons for that and paul will have his reasons for not wanting to give her as much as that. personally I say; (I've heard this kind of story; time and time again) a celebrity and his wife or husband wants a divorce and they want a load of his or her money. the story never changes; just let them get on with it and if heather wins and gets more than paul wants to give her; it's no real great loss to him anyway; plus the fact that heather will never ever get the chance to spend it all anyway. it's more money than any of us here will ever get to see or spend; ha.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by northcircular
well this four page discussion seems to have taken a turn for the worse. If it was a married couple arguing; I might say it would end in divorce from what a read. I'll try and offer a civilised response which for me; isn't difficult. as i do it often.

I love the beatles; always have, always will. I did assume that most of the songs were written by; lennon/mccartney. not george harrison. however I am no expert on the matter; not that it really matters in this divorce settlement anyhow.

I also like james blunt; but have never liked bob dylan. I find his vocals rather excruciating to be honest; I don't think I'm alone on that opinion. he did right some very good songs though and he is very talented and very rich to. I feel that he is very likely to die in the middle of a tour; no man/woman or child shall prevent him from singing on those many stages; he's been on that many all over the globe. I certainly couldn't manage what he has achieved; but I'd be much happier at a james blunt concert; which I may goto one day.

in regards to who is the best songwriters; well that is always up to the fan of the artist or group. personal preferance basically. I'd be honest and say that they are all equally good songwriters and nobody should really say for sure which is better; because it can't be proven. just because an artist or a group is successful; doesn't mean that they are better songwriters than someone who is less successful; does it?

anyway I can see this divorce settlement that paul mccartney and heather mills/mccartney are going through is never going to be easy. I really can't say that we can blame any one of them in particular; only they know the real truth. perhaps she only wanted him for his money. perhaps she really loved him; but paul mccartney treated her badly in some way or they just couldn't get along like paul and linda mccartney got along. they were together for a long time and when linda died; it hit paul really badly and then trying to rekindle the feelings he once had with linda and try to replace her with heather just didn't work for him. perhaps he reacted badly; who can really say.

I know heather is seeking a large amount of money off paul and it may be too much. heather will have her reasons for that and paul will have his reasons for not wanting to give her as much as that. personally I say; (I've heard this kind of story; time and time again) a celebrity and his wife or husband wants a divorce and they want a load of his or her money. the story never changes; just let them get on with it and if heather wins and gets more than paul wants to give her; it's no real great loss to him anyway; plus the fact that heather will never ever get the chance to spend it all anyway. it's more money than any of us here will ever get to see or spend; ha.

Hello Nodis

Soooooooo pleased to see your back ..... will you be staying long?

[Billy]

LMAO Kiz.


What age are you today Nodis? 18? 30? 106?

[Scarlett.]

NO! Paul should give it to me!

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by molecular
stop me in my tracks. is that what happened

it look to me like you just trying to side with you friend(schoolgirl tactic) didnt notice anythin true

I side with the person who provides the most reasonable debate and of course with someone who's views I agree with. Had you made points that "I" felt were valid I would most certainly have sided with you. You know you seem awfully familiar to me, you sound like hmmmmm let me think "hitman" yep thats who you sound like, but of course I could be wrong but I think I will have a closer look at your profile

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
You know you seem awfully familiar to me, you sound like hmmmmm let me think "hitman" yep thats who you sound like, but of course I could be wrong but I think I will have a closer look at your profile

This must be the outing thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As far as i am concerned Heather doesnt deserve 30/40/50 million. She was with him for only 4 years. Its not like she helped him with his career.

She should get enough to keep her comfortable.

As for needing security, thats her problem is she doesnt have the cash to cough up for that then she should down scale slightly on where she lives

[molecular]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
You know you seem awfully familiar to me, you sound like hmmmmm let me think "hitman" yep thats who you sound like

hey didnt you say same thing to my mate ron 21 back when he was beating everyone in those arguments.

ive learned already the in crowd on here are really bad losers

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by molecular

ive learned already the in crowd on here are really bad losers

And who would that be then?

[Mrluvaluva]

OOh. And molecular was so far up Ron21's backside it hurt.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
OOh. And molecular was so far up Ron21's backside it hurt.

LMFAO!!!!!!

I am soooo confused at the moment, there seems to be all sorts of mix up with who is who, but do tell me, arent ron21 and the chosen one the same person? Doesnt that make ron21 and the hitman one in the same too?

[Mrluvaluva]

Thechosenone was the hitman. If Ron21 was thechosenone then it does.

[~Kizwiz~]

So many disguises..... only a few hidden behind them

[Shaun]

I reckon we're all Nodis.

*twilight theme tune plays*

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Shaun
I reckon we're all Nodis.

*twilight theme tune plays*

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

*looks around suspectingly*

[Mrluvaluva]

3 trolls in one thread eh? And one of them under 2 different guises. Is that a record?

[molecular]

oh no mrluvaluva the trolls back

kiziwz i answer you question buit i wont name the names itll mnake me more upopular than i already am. ill use mrluvaluva as example seein as he kind enough to poke his nose in again.

a few weels ago this guy called ron21 came on this forum and made some tiopics to start some debates and have some arguments. he was good debater and noone could beat him but he was a bit rude to some peole after they been rude to him aswell so he started makin lots of enemys. me and matt10k both said to ron you make good debates but you need to stop bein rude otherwise people get upset. more an more people came out of nowhere an got involved trying to beat ron in the arguments but he kept beating them all, it was really funny i have to admit but all the in crowd on this forum really hated it an ron started gettin loads and loads of stick. eventually ron got banned.

i got a bit invloved one day when mrluvaluva was arguin with ron gettin a real beating an ron made him look pretty foolish, i said to luvaluva just leave it cause it was gettin uncomfortable an he got mad at me to and we argued for a couple of days cause i said ron was right an he was i thought that was the end of it but my karms went down loooaaads.

what i learned is that if you beat in crowd in an argument on here thay all pile in an throw insults an karms go down. like mine has today