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Not-really - she did rub-hands with Mandela and in any case is a legend to be revered | 2 | 25.00% | ||||
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She did enable lots-of colonial disruption - I understand the mixed feelings | 2 | 25.00% | ||||
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^ but in appropriate moderation (someone’s death is nothing to celebrate) | 2 | 25.00% | ||||
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11-09-2022, 02:58 PM | #26 | |||
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11-09-2022, 02:58 PM | #27 | |||
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hopefully, this will end her career
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11-09-2022, 02:59 PM | #28 | |||
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Again, I don’t think it should come to that but one way or another she does need to face-up to the seriousness of what she said.
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11-09-2022, 03:04 PM | #29 | |||
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self-oscillating
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There are ways of putting any argument and doing it to inflame isn't going to result in a sympathetic response
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11-09-2022, 03:28 PM | #30 | |||
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She wouldn't have gotten a sympathetic response no matter how she put it let's be real
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11-09-2022, 03:34 PM | #31 | |||
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no doubt, as with a lot of these "tweets" she would have been pished when she did it or on something else
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11-09-2022, 03:35 PM | #32 | |||
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She was stone-cold sober, trust-me.
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11-09-2022, 03:40 PM | #33 | |||
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Maybe the title I gave was a bit of a misnomer because a lot of Britain’s history (the type they certainly don’t teach in schools) is shameful and it goes without-saying that I’m pretty hot on racism and whatnot so I’m the last person to want people to censor their views on history per se but it has to be directed at the appropriate source/s, not an old lady who literally had no choice to remain impartial to whatever the monarchical pieties of her respective time/s requested her do. People should not-have been directing death-wishes to her under any circumstances, not if she wasn’t-actually Hitler or Bin-Laden.
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11-09-2022, 03:42 PM | #34 | |||
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11-09-2022, 03:43 PM | #35 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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A little old lady that wore a diamond worth over £400m on the top of her silly hat, that was stolen from Africa.
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11-09-2022, 04:32 PM | #36 | |||
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Wait, do we like cancel culture now?
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11-09-2022, 04:38 PM | #37 | |||
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This Witch doesn't burn
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Speaking just from personal experience I dont think English people hold a grudge against Germans apart from at football, as an Irish person whilst history should never be forgotton, and terrible fates were bestowed on those thought of as peasants by the Aristocracy, times have moved on I would in the main consider England to be an ally of the Republic and they bend over backwards to stay on friendly terms as an example, during covid the Irish could travel freely to England with no issue, it was not the same for people living in England travelling to Ireland who had to test, I hope the Northern Irish protocol does not upset relations because we have been on friendly terms for years now again apart from Sport and long may that remain, history has its place but we should not live in the past, it is not very healthy
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11-09-2022, 04:51 PM | #38 | |||
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11-09-2022, 05:18 PM | #39 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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An even sillier hat than those.
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11-09-2022, 05:24 PM | #40 | |||
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11-09-2022, 05:33 PM | #41 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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Every cloud
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11-09-2022, 05:45 PM | #42 | |||
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This Witch doesn't burn
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We love a papal hat
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11-09-2022, 09:08 PM | #43 | |||
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POW! BLAM!
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As I said when I shared her tweet, it would be a crying shame if she faced professional repercussions for the tweet. Idiocy on Twitter ending jobs isn't a good thing no matter who it happens to.
Short of calling for violence people should be free to say what they want. Her Uni agrees - I don't have the quote to hand, but a tweet of theirs distanced themselves from what she said, while defending her right to say it. |
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11-09-2022, 09:10 PM | #44 | |||
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POW! BLAM!
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Sure, I always think everyone represents themselves, rather than the census boxes they'd tick.
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11-09-2022, 09:15 PM | #45 | |||
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It's not a view or opinion it's venomous hate speech
Huge difference |
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11-09-2022, 11:18 PM | #46 | |||
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Off-topic slightly but I honestly-thought the queen would make 100.
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12-09-2022, 12:20 AM | #47 | |||
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Jessica Meuse was robbed.
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Personally no I don't.
I think it's one of them, let her express her views, but people that don't agree with her can also express what they think of her comments.
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12-09-2022, 09:26 AM | #48 | |||
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**I don't mean people on here, I mean in general/on social media
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12-09-2022, 09:49 AM | #49 | ||
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If you want to blame one woman for the wrong doings in history you are obviously a complete dick head
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12-09-2022, 10:06 AM | #50 | |||
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I think it's a little bit more complex than blaming one woman for the wrong doings in History, it's what she represents more than her as a person which is the Monarchy and an Empire that did a lot of damage to many countries in the world. You can't be the Queen of Britain for the good stuff but just a little old lady when it comes to the more unsavory parts.
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