[Zizu]

Southgate never earned the right to manage England .. it was just circumstances .. it just fell into his lap


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[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Alf

I've never rated him as a manager. He got a dream draw in the World Cup and failed against Croatia and then another great draw on home soil in the Euros and failed again.

He's been dining out on getting far in tournaments but for the draws he's had in those tournaments and the quality of players he's had, who all play in the best league in the World, then he should be making finals and probably winning.

The World Cup even with a good draw they still only scraped past Columbia on penalties and then fell to Croatia.

In the Euro's they only had 1 major test on route to the final against the Germans and then in the final they played in defensive mode on their home ground and were deservedly beaten.

He should have won at least 1 of those tournaments, he had the best opportunity of any England manager in my lifetime.

Time to change manager, although I don't see any English managers out there with a good CV at present. All the top jobs in this country are managed by foreign managers.

Agree with all that but not sure its worth getting rid of Southgate now with only two games until the World Cup. Think we'll just have to roll with it and hope for the best, after this a new manager could have 18 months leading up to the next Euros to settle in and find his best team

[MTVN]

Fed up of people using the excuse that the players are knackered after a long season etc. as well - they'd normally be playing a World Cup right now! And Southgate has rotated so much that they've all had plenty of rest

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Fed up of people using the excuse that the players are knackered after a long season etc. as well - they'd normally be playing a World Cup right now! And Southgate has rotated so much that they've all had plenty of rest

You’d think it was just US who’ve been playing this season


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[bitontheslide]

to me the england team are suffering from man united syndrome, where they are good players, but they just can't be arsed playing for whatever reason

[Zizu]

Southgate - TalkSport interview

With negatives comes positives , we know now that maybe some of the younger players maybe aren’t as far on as we thought . It’s possible that we’re looking at Euro 2024 before they’re ready.


That’s one bizarre positive !!

He isn’t even a man of his word .

A few days ago he said he won’t stay if he’s not wanted .. last night the whole stadium ridiculed him and sang derogatory ditties towards him




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[Zizu]

He has to go and NOW after stating things like this a few days ago .

Gareth Southgate has insisted that he will not outstay his welcome as England manager and said he is aware of the growing criticism of his team selections. Southgate, 51, added that he believed his players remain behind him and that he can oversee further improvements in results.

England host Italy today in what is the sides’ first meeting since the Euro 2020 final defeat on penalties at Wembley in July.


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[bitontheslide]

changing the manager 2 games before the world cup isn't a smart move. If he fails at the world cup then he will be gone.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

changing the manager 2 games before the world cup isn't a smart move. If he fails at the world cup then he will be gone.

We’ve had our worst home defeat sibcd 1928 .. lost home and away to a Hungary a team who are three places below Scotland in the team rankings ..

A Hungary team who lost home and away to Albania


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[parmnion]

Youtube video

[Nicky91]

fixtures

today

Scotland - Ukraine


tomorrow

Kazakhstan - Belarus

Latvia - Moldova

France - Austria

Croatia - Denmark

Belgium - Wales

Poland - Netherlands

Turkiye - Luxembourg

Lithuania - Faroe Islands

Slovakia - Azerbaijan

Liechtenstein - Andorra


friday

Georgia - North Macedonia

Estonia - Malta

Italy - England

Germany - Hungary

Finland - Romania

Bosnia Herzegovina - Montenegro

Bulgaria - Gibraltar

saturday

Armenia - Ukraine

Slovenia - Norway

Northern Ireland - Kosovo

Spain - Switzerland

Czech Republic - Portugal

Scotland - Ireland

Israel - Albania

Serbia - Sweden

Cyprus - Greece

[bitontheslide]

The BBC football page isn't even mentioning the nations league

[LeatherTrumpet]

mon the Scots

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

mon the Scots

Typical.

[bitontheslide]

[Nicky91]

Netherlands great 0-2 win


not so great the injuries for Koopmeiners and Depay though

[Calderyon]

Germany v Hungary 0-1

That's terrible.

[LeatherTrumpet]

england need to sack you know
who

[bitontheslide]

his speciality seems to be playing out of form players. Declan Rice was embarrassing on the interview, saying they played really well

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

his speciality seems to be playing out of form players. Declan Rice was embarrassing on the interview, saying they played really well

Southgate said afterwards that he thought we were in control from the start !!


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[bitontheslide]

iran beat uruguay 1-0

[Nicky91]

Armenia - Ukraine currently 0-1

goalscorer tymchyk



soo if Ukraine wins this then Ireland can take things easy against Scotland knowing they are safe from relegation anyway

[bitontheslide]

Scotland need 1 point for promotion

[Calderyon]

England relegated to League B.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands, Croatia into nations league semi finals