[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There are plenty rich people out there who got rich by accident of birth, anyone who has a good talent for singing, football, acting, some got rich by accident of birth no one says they don't deserve to speak out, I am sure Marcus Rashford isn't wearing Primark or driving around in a 20 year car when he speaks about poverty

Difference being , Marcus Rashford wasn't born into wealth . Plus he's never abandoned his roots . He actually cares about the poor & people struggling. He can empathise as he was knows what it's like to be in that situation.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Difference being , Marcus Rashford wasn't born into wealth . Plus he's never abandoned his roots . He actually cares about the poor & people struggling. He can empathise as he was knows what it's like to be in that situation.

Kate wasn't born into wealth either, her family are pretty middle class as far as I am aware, he also has money through an accident of birth, i..e being a footballer, he enjoys the trappings of wealth no doubt and nobody would expect him to walk around in a hair shirt while speaking up about poverty

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

that woman is the heartbeat of the great British public

she will get us through the winter..

Top Comments

Mynamewhocares, Somewhere, United Kingdom, 18 hours ago

The point being we should not need them at all.

Melampus, South, United Kingdom, 18 hours ago

Maybe the RF should pay inherit ance tax like every other family in the UK that would help a lot of food banks.

Bartletts, London, United Kingdom, 18 hours ago

She says as she just about to move into her fifth property since her marriage!

BeBeel, Nottingham, United Kingdom, 18 hours ago

I think being patronized by a princess is not a good look at this time.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Kate had a pretty normal upbringing as well, maybe she wasn't particularly poor but her parents worked and she went to Uni at St Andrews so would have mixed with people from all backgrounds as did William

I'm sorry but there is NO WAY Kate Middleton's background, is anything like Marcus Rashford's . You yourself said she WASN'T poor ,plus she had a very well off education.
The fact that she met William at one of the most expensive top notch universities ..St Andrews is classed as higher on scale than even Cambridge & Oxford , and those are pretty elite class . It's also pretty difficult to get into st Andrew's.

There is no way Kate & William were surrounded by anything , in their student days other than middle/ upper class people with wealth & a certain status out of touch from the rest of us . There is no way your average Joe ,from a council estate would be going to st Andrew's !!....come on let's be realistic.

[thesheriff443]

Honest answers
Who on here would be a member of the Royal family if they had a choice?

[LeatherTrumpet]

It said on the radio that before she left she personally donated Ł200

SO thats one in the eye for her detractors

[Jordan.]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I'm sorry but there is NO WAY Kate Middleton's background, is anything like Marcus Rashford's . You yourself said she WASN'T poor ,plus she had a very well off education.
The fact that she met William at one of the most expensive top notch universities ..St Andrews is classed as higher on scale than even Cambridge & Oxford , and those are pretty elite class . It's also pretty difficult to get into st Andrew's.

There is no way Kate & William were surrounded by anything , in their student days other than middle/ upper class people with wealth & a certain status out of touch from the rest of us . There is no way your average Joe ,from a council estate would be going to st Andrew's !!....come on let's be realistic.

I never said they were, but Kate wasn't born into untold wealth, and the suggestion is that you cant wear expensive things and talk about being poor, well Marcus does ...and that was the point I was making, I was also making thee point that his wealth is an accident of birth ie. he was born with a talent for football so should we be crying about that like we are about the Royals being born into wealth?

Incidentaly the entry requirement to St Andrews ais AAA or ABB are you saying that no poor students achieve these grades?

[AnnieK]

Marcus Rashford's childhood and Kate Middleton's were poles apart. He lived on an inner city council estate where his mother, a single parent who often had to work multiple jobs to feed their family, sometimes skipping meals herself to ensure Marcus and his siblings ate. Whereas, Kate attended exclusive boarding schools, including St. Andrew's Prep School, Downe House, and Marlborough College. Michael Middleton, an airline dispatcher, whose wealthy family hails from Leeds and which has ties to British aristocracy.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I never said they were, but Kate wasn't born into untold wealth, and the suggestion is that you cant wear expensive things and talk about being poor, well Marcus does ...and that was the point I was making, I was also making thee point that his wealth is an accident of birth ie. he was born with a talent for football so should we be crying about that like we are about the Royals being born into wealth?

Incidentaly the entry requirement to St Andrews ais AAA or ABB are you saying that no poor students achieve these grades?

You're missing the point , Kate is still out of touch as she's never lived in poverty ... Like Annie said she's gone to exclusive schools / colleges etc all her life .

And no it's not just grades AAA or ABB you need to get into st Andrews , it's also difficult to get into due to other factors.

Of course a poor kid or a working class kid can get good or even excellent grades ,but they will still find it difficult to get into one of these types of universities, unless they have the money & connections & are not judged by their different class .

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You're missing the point , Kate is still out of touch as she's never lived in poverty ... Like Annie said she's gone to exclusive schools / colleges etc all her life .

And no it's not just grades AAA or ABB you need to get into st Andrews , it's also difficult to get into due to other factors.

Of course a poor kid or a working class kid can get good or even excellent grades ,but they will still find it difficult to get into one of these types of universities, unless they have the money & connections & are not judged by their different class .

Andrews has failed to shed its royal reputation as only 14.2 per cent of its students are from working-class backgrounds, and 3.5 per cent are from deprived areas. 54 per cent of the university's students come from state schools.

Its higher than you think


so flipping the above around poor kids cant imagine what its like to be rich? if the rich can't imagine what it is like to be poor then that would seem to be the case in your eyes?

Its higher than you think

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Marcus Rashford's childhood and Kate Middleton's were poles apart. He lived on an inner city council estate where his mother, a single parent who often had to work multiple jobs to feed their family, sometimes skipping meals herself to ensure Marcus and his siblings ate. Whereas, Kate attended exclusive boarding schools, including St. Andrew's Prep School, Downe House, and Marlborough College. Michael Middleton, an airline dispatcher, whose wealthy family hails from Leeds and which has ties to British aristocracy.

Marcus is still enjoying the trappings of wealth though is he not? you appeared to be saying that people should not speak about poverty if they are wearing expensive clothes and jewellery

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I'm not saying they are I said I know she means well but it lacks empathy and experience so is a hollow statement.

Its not a hollow statement...its coming from someone who genuinely cares. The fact she has money is irrelevant. Diana used to go out and visit the homeless and give them support...she meant well but was that lacking empathy and experience ...its the total opposite.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Marcus is still enjoying the trappings of wealth though is he not? you appeared to be saying that people should not speak about poverty if they are wearing expensive clothes and jewellery

Marcus hasn't just spoke about it though, he's been really active in raising money and actually getting children fed

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Kate had a pretty normal upbringing as well, maybe she wasn't particularly poor but her parents worked and she went to Uni at St Andrews so would have mixed with people from all backgrounds as did William

I worked with her father at the Airport...Kates mother was a stewardess. It was their business that bought them wealth by which time I think their children were early teens...so Kate did start her life in a humble background.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Marcus hasn't just spoke about it though, he's been really active in raising money and actually getting children fed

Yes he has, you are right.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Marcus is still enjoying the trappings of wealth though is he not? you appeared to be saying that people should not speak about poverty if they are wearing expensive clothes and jewellery

Not really what I said. I said they can't empathise truly if they have not lived it - they can sympathise but not empathise. The difference with Marcus is he has lived it so can empathise. He has also raised more than 20 million for charity that help child poverty so he is not just enjoying trappings of wealth, he gives an awful lot back.

I started by saying that it always seems hollow from those who have not experienced what they are talking about - that's it. I actually said I believe Kate truly means the sentiments and is coming from a good place but it seems a little hollow. That's it.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Honest answers
Who on here would be a member of the Royal family if they had a choice?

I wouldn't.

I couldn't take the rigidity of duty always and the cold faceless regime of those who really run the Palace for instance.

The privilege of all they have is not worth anything for me.
I can admire however both sides as to those who do stay in that controlled life environment.
Equally admiring those who get out of it.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Princess Kate empathises with Rachel Bunting (right), the organiser of Swansea Baby Basics
baby bank, as well as two community nursery nurses

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Princess Kate emphasises with Rachel Bunting (right), the organiser of Swansea Baby Basics
baby bank, as well as two community nursery nurses

emphasises what?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

emphasises what?

empathises

you can see she understands what ordinary people are going through

and that Ł200 will go a long way with the centres tight budget

[LeatherTrumpet]

The Duchess spoke on the phone to Sami, a food bank volunteer from London in 2021
So she really understands

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

empathises

you can see she understands what ordinary people are going through

and that Ł200 will go a long way with the centres tight budget

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Its not a hollow statement...its coming from someone who genuinely cares. The fact she has money is irrelevant. Diana used to go out and visit the homeless and give them support...she meant well but was that lacking empathy and experience ...its the total opposite.

Actually it IS a hollow statement, Kate has NEVER experienced any of it . Whereas Marcus knows exactly where these people are coming from, because he's been there himself. Yes he's successful & wealthy now ....but he's never forgotten & he's very much involved with charity & helping people.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Actually it IS a hollow statement, Kate has NEVER experienced any of it . Whereas Marcus knows exactly where these people are coming from, because he's been there himself. Yes he's successful & wealthy now ....but he's never forgotten & he's very much involved with charity & helping people.

But so what...what difference does it make. Is Marcus a better person because he knew what poverty was like??? Does that make him better than Kate Middleton??? Just because he has experienced it doesnt make him a better person. At the end of the day they are both doing a brilliant job. They are both involved with Charities and they are both helping people and raising awareness.