[Redway]

Originally Posted by parmnion

That's true, but she does look like a stereotypical scotsman in a way..so on that note, I think its fair to say, "I wouldn't be offended if I was attending such a lavish event, and someone asked me in my kilt and sporran, what part of Scotland are you from"

I would actually be made up to bits that someone was asking me about myself and my home town.

The context is ever-so-slightly different (preying too much about a black person’s descent and asking them about it when you don’t know them has always been deeply racially-offensive, and that’s putting it really rather mildly) but it’s good that you’re a proud Scot.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Redway

When the mutual familiarity’s tight enough/you’re talking as (potential) friends the only thing wrong with that is assuming they’d have to be from Africa, even the way it sounds (and for all you know they could be from Saint Kitts and Nevis). But in the context of this thread it was so-blatantly asked to racially-offend Ngozi and tell her ‘her kind’s not welcome’ and that’s blatantly not okay.

It isnt ok. I agree.
But I dont think that's what was going on. I mean no offence to squint eyed inbreds, but have you seen the state of the old woman.

No way she was doing anything deliberately, the only accusation could be rudeness, but who knows she might just have aspergers or something.


Its crap story, but opens up an interesting debate..

Pity you cant be bothered tonight, perhaps another time.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Redway

The context is ever-so-slightly different (preying too much about a black person’s descent and asking them about it when you don’t know them has always been deeply racially-offensive, and that’s putting it really rather mildly) but it’s good that you’re a proud Scot.

I dunno..

You come to an event like that, dressed up like she was.

If it were me, I would be disappointed if I wasnt asked what part of Africa I'm from.

Especially all the old folk in there, who ain't to sure about how to word things. I'd have a right laugh and giggle with them about it.

I certainly wouldnt be on every radio station or podcast whatevers bleating about that being the only thing about my day out.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It isnt ok. I agree.
But I dont think that's what was going on. I mean no offence to squint eyed inbreds, but have you seen the state of the old woman.

No way she was doing anything deliberately, the only accusation could be rudeness, but who knows she might just have aspergers or something.


Its crap story, but opens up an interesting debate..

Pity you cant be bothered tonight, perhaps another time.

I mean, she might do but people said just that about (to use a very extreme example) Shamima Begum (because of the intense social awkwardness she gave off in vibes when she was being interviewed) and people still (rightly) came on her with force so I wouldn’t even be trying to use that as an excuse when it comes to things race-related.

[arista]

['Consider the legacy of colonialism and racism':
Black reverend opens William and Kate's Earthshot
event with awkward lecture on historic
prejudice - just HOURS after Palace race scandal
triggered by Prince's own godmother]

[ Reverend Mariama White-Hammond was one
of several speakers at the Earthshot Prize launch
in Boston on Wednesday,
when she made a speech that included comments
on the impact of racism on climate change
She told the crowd to 'consider the legacy of
colonialism and racism',
adding that it has impacted people across the world'
Caroline Kennedy, daughter of
late President JFK, whose Moonshot speech inspired
Earthshot, was meant to be in attendance however
she was unable to attend due to 'disrupted travel plans'
Similarly, John Kerry,presidential envoy for climate,
was due to be in attendance, but informed the
Prince and Princess earlier today that he would
'sadly no longer be able to attend'
Prince William and Kate Middleton touched down
in Boston on Wednesday afternoon and were
greeted by Governor Baker of Massachusetts
amid a furious Buckingham Palace race row*
William's godmother Lady Susan Hussey
was accused of making racist comments
to black domestic abuse
campaigner Ngozi Fulani at an event
hosted by Queen Consort Camilla
on Tuesday night]


At the Boston USA Event
yesterday

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Redway

I mean, she might do but people said just that about (to use a very extreme example) Shamima Begum (because of the intense social awkwardness she gave off in vibes when she was being interviewed) and people still (rightly) came on her with force so I wouldn’t even be trying to use that as an excuse when it comes to things race-related.

Yes, a very extreme example.

[arista]

Richard Kay's take


[Lady Susan Hussey will be mortified
at causing offence with her remarks.
But friends are accusing the Palace - which is extremely
sensitive ahead of Harry and Meghan's Netflix
documentary - of acting with indecent haste]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...e-remarks.html

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

they did not because she lied and lied and lied

are you saying people should listen to a serial liar?

Maybe she had a point .. is my point


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Of course we have not got Lady Susan's account of what happened

So nothing more than a loaded one sided account reeking of bias

Admittedly I would like to hear her version of events.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

Is that the real conversation?

Because it sounds like an episode of Ch4 Big Brother.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

Because she was a racist scumbag, Mock. Pure and simple. Ngozi really, really didn’t overreact.

I think that I misread the op at that point and thought that Ngozi had resigned from her Charity work.

My bad.

[bots]

if it were one simple question it would be harmless, but this seems to have gone on and on which does put a different slant on it

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Is that the real conversation?

Because it sounds like an episode of Ch4 Big Brother.

Yes it is.


Ngozi Fulani, herself
is going to be Live on GMBHD itv

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if it were one simple question it would be harmless, but this seems to have gone on and on which does put a different slant on it

Agreed

[Gusto Brunt]

To be fair, she phased the question totally wrong.

The lady was wearing 'traditional dress' I believe. All the Queen's dogsbody had to say was 'which country is that traditional dress from?'

But of course even that, an appropriate question, could be thought of as 'racist.

I do believe the woman who complained was deliberately being awkward. Why wear 'traditional dress' if you want to dissociate yourself from it?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes it is.


Ngozi Fulani, herself
is going to be Live on GMBHD itv

of course she is

Why have you got Black Godmother in the title? it is not correct

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Cherie

of course she is

Why have you got Black Godmother in the title? it is not correct

The title of this thread offends me - it makes no sense

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The title of this thread offends me - it makes no sense

I dont know how we have got to 4 pages and it is still unchanged

[bots]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The title of this thread offends me - it makes no sense

it's completely the wrong way round

[joeysteele]

Well the Royals have a bit of a mess here on this one.

The constant questioning is unnecessary and inappropriate.
Really would have been better had this lady not raised the issue at all.

I just can't see the point of even asking these questions in the first place.
Ask about the charity yes.
Not go into a personal questioning route.

Also, have to agree with others arista, this thread title is more like a riddle, sorry for that.

[Alf]

Would it be racist to ask Cliff Richard, which part of England he came from?

By this logic, it would. That's how silly you are and this is.

Asking a question is not racism. We ask questions as humans to find out information.

The rest of the World is laughing at how silly you are.

[Crimson Dynamo]

If you met her and she said her name is Ngozi Fulani

and you asked "oh where does that name originate from?"

in her head she is thinking "you racist!"



baffling

[GiRTh]

Familiar response on here. She's over reacting, shes lying, we only have on e side of the story.

Noted that only a few are saying that Lady whatever shouildnt have interrogated her. Familiar sad response.

[Crimson Dynamo]

we do only have one side of the story

that is a fact

if it isnt please post the other side

[arista]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The title of this thread offends me - it makes no sense

Not enough room to fit in the Full title

I have now modified it
to
"Black godmother to Prince William, Resigns : after being insulted by Royal staff "