[arista]

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

Not enough room to fit in the Full title

but the title is plain wrong, for example, the godmother was not black

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

but the title is plain wrong, for example, the godmother was not black

I have modified it

Godmother to Prince William resigns, after asking Black Lady what country she's from

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

To be fair, she phased the question totally wrong.

The lady was wearing 'traditional dress' I believe. All the Queen's dogsbody had to say was 'which country is that traditional dress from?'

But of course even that, an appropriate question, could be thought of as 'racist.

I do believe the woman who complained was deliberately being awkward. Why wear 'traditional dress' if you want to dissociate yourself from it?

No.

People can wear what they like without having to explain themselves. That lady could wear clothing which originates from any culture, and it wouldn't give people the right to question her.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Familiar response on here. She's over reacting, shes lying, we only have on e side of the story.

Noted that only a few are saying that Lady whatever shouildnt have interrogated her. Familiar sad response.

What is the correct response?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

I have modified it

Black godmother to Prince William, Resigns : after being insulted by Royal staff

the lady who resigned is a white English lady who worked for the Queen Consort

the women making all the fuss is a Black woman who works at some charity in Hackney

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

I have modified it

Black godmother to Prince William, Resigns : after being insulted by Royal staff

The godmother still isn't black though.

Did you fully understand the story?

[joeysteele]

How about.

Royal aide quits after alleged racism row looms.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

How about.

Royal aide quits after alleged racism row looms.

Done it

Godmother to Prince William resigns after asking Black Lady what country she's from

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The godmother still isn't black though.

Did you fully understand the story?

Yes Typed it in
wrong

Now Corrected

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

but the title is plain wrong, for example, the godmother was not black

Yes Corrected now

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What is the correct response?

There is no correct response. Its just sad to see the same thing over and over again.

How many think she over reacted? We should start a poll

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I dont know how we have got to 4 pages and it is still unchanged

Sure
Corrected now

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

we do only have one side of the story

that is a fact

if it isnt please post the other side

You're correct. We do only know one side.

[arista]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

There is no correct response. Its just sad to see the same thing over and over again.

How many think she over reacted? We should start a poll

Ngozi Fulani, chief executive of Sistah Space
did nothing wrong,


https://www.itv.com/news/2022-11-30/...ally-came-from

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the lady who resigned is a white English lady who worked for the Queen Consort

the women making all the fuss is a Black woman who works at some charity in Hackney

There's a difference between politely asking someone of their heritage in an appropriate space and doing it in a way that's blatantly intentioned as racist/telling her that 'her kind isn't welcome.' If you knew what the name Ngozi means and who the Igbo people really are/how gifted they are you wouldn't be so quick to write her off as just some next black woman from Hackney but you shouldn't write off/indirectly-gaslight people of colour relating their experiences of racism anyway. Your comparison between a white English lady and a "snowflake" black woman (black people have been and go through too much to ever be snowflake-y; that's a white Gen.-Z thing, not something that applies to enterprising and hard-working black people with a lifetime of unnecessary discrimination to boot) in terms of who you think's more reliable is absolutely disgusting. I know you're fond of saying things to bait but at some point you're going to have to sit back and realise how shameful some of your comments and your wilful ignorance are.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Redway

There's a difference between politely asking someone of their heritage in an appropriate space and doing it in a way that's blatantly intentioned as racist/telling her that 'her kind isn't welcome.'

How is asking someone's heritate the same as saying they're not welcome?

[Redway]

arista:

"Royal aide to Prince William resigns after alleged racism"

^ that sells the story well enough and that's all you need to say for the title.

You're going to have to ignore what other people are bait-suggesting about us only having one side of the story. We've read/seen enough.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

arista:

"Royal aide to Prince William resigns after alleged racism"

^ that sells the story well enough and that's all you need to say for the title.

You're going to have to ignore what other people are bait-suggesting about us only having one side of the story. We've read/seen enough.

is that the Royal "we"?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

is that the Royal "we"?

Reddy's suggested title is fine - Lady SH did step down, and the racism is alleged.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

No.

People can wear what they like without having to explain themselves. That lady could wear clothing which originates from any culture, and it wouldn't give people the right to question her.

Of course you can wear what you like...however if you were making small talk to a person you have never met before and he is wearing a Kilt...would it not be an inevitable question to ask what part of Scotland are you from??
Are you not considered to be making a statement if you are in the National attire of a country?
The woman was 89...it was time for her to step down but how sad that after all these years of service she will be remembered as being 'Racist'...It has been a complete over reaction...and it seems her apology just is not good enough.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

How is asking someone's heritate the same as saying they're not welcome?

There's only so far one can really go with people who are committed to disregarding/ignoring the nuances of racism and try to justify it with literal word-logic (I'm not saying you're prejudiced by any means but this evidently isn't a thing you have much experience of, whether directly or as a white person who's experienced enough in subtle racism and how it comes about). I'd candidly say attitudes like this are part of the problem but no-doubt everything I say will be twisted and asked to be supported with statistical studies proving that asking someone about their heritage in such a disrespectful way (not just in any context/for the sake of genuinely wanting to know but to be racist) is, indeed, racist so I am going to have to cap off this discussion at some point before it becomes too nonsensical and gaslight-y and anyone who sees the patent offence in this is called a paranoid conclusion-jumper.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Alf

Would it be racist to ask Cliff Richard, which part of England he came from?

By this logic, it would. That's how silly you are and this is.

Asking a question is not racism. We ask questions as humans to find out information.

The rest of the World is laughing at how silly you are.

By all grounds of logic one would have to account for the fact that "English" isn't a race and that there's a very specific issue of black people being asked that question with blatantly-racist intentions at play. If you're from a different world or don't have much real experience with black friends/racism and whatnot it's quite alright not to get it or understand completely but it's not okay to indirectly gaslight this woman just because her experience of (not even very subtle) racism doesn't resonate with your understanding of racism as a middle-aged white man from Hull. Chances are it most-definitely won't but there's a way to hold space for people talking about things you don't fully understand without calling them over-sensitive snowflakes.

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