[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

this is completely different to WW2 though


be more grateful towards Russia, they pretty much saved our arses from nazi germany whereas the ''allied forces'' kinda struggled crossing the german border, they were already in berlin

Let's not forget the secret pact between USSR and the Nazis at the start of the war and the fact that Stalin killed more people than Hitler.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yeah, I see... but claiming that the Ukraine isn't at war with Russia, well... I don't agree.

BOTS is right I'm not claiming that Ukraine isn't at war, Ukraine and Russia are obviously at war, just that Western nations are currently "just" supporting Ukraine in that war rather than being at war actively. Or, at least, there's deniability in political terms. I personally think it's all pretty murky because does it really make a difference that it's Ukrainian fingers pulling the triggers if all of the guns and ammo are European/American... but I suppose it's a well established political "game" and fighting wars this way is definitely nothing new.

And anyway, Soldier Boy could do with a good shoeing from time to time.

Probably.

[Nicky91]

oh Germany didn't want to send tanks but they were forced to send tanks by the vile UK and USA

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Let's not forget the secret pact between USSR and the Nazis at the start of the war and the fact that Stalin killed more people than Hitler.

Stalin if anything trusted Hitler too much and would never have gone to war if Germany hadn't started pushing into the USSR... he was happy for Hitler to have all of Western Europe. In fact I believe the reason so many Russians ended up dead was because Stalin was slow in responding to intelligence that Hitler intended to push into the USSR, probably because he realised it was a strategic disaster for Germany so they'd never do it, but they did, and he was right, splitting the German front weakened them dramatically. Basically we're lucky that Stalin was right that Germany splitting their front was a terrible idea, and lucky that he was wrong about Hitler not actually trying to do it.

But ideologically? Stalin was all for Germany chewing up Europe and then splitting some of the land with the USSR.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Stalin if anything trusted Hitler too much and would never have gone to war if Germany hadn't started pushing into the USSR... he was happy for Hitler to have all of Western Europe. In fact I believe the reason so many Russians ended up dead was because Stalin was slow in responding to intelligence that Hitler intended to push into the USSR, probably because he realised it was a strategic disaster for Germany so they'd never do it, but they did, and he was right, splitting the German front weakened them dramatically. Basically we're lucky that Stalin was right that Germany splitting their front was a terrible idea, and lucky that he was wrong about Hitler not actually trying to do it.

But ideologically? Stalin was all for Germany chewing up Europe and then splitting some of the land with the USSR.

It's weird to think that in just the Twentieth Century, parts of Europe were under the boots of Fascism, Nazism, and Communism

[Sticks]

And parts of Africa and India under the jack boot of Colonialism

[arista]

Originally Posted by Sticks

And parts of Africa and India under the jack boot of Colonialism

Yes Some owe Debt to China
in Africa Nations.


But Concrete Buildings built by China in Africa
are cracking
Bad mixed cement
China cutting corners on the very poor.


Was on Gravitas Part 1
on WION HD SkyHD Ch519

[arista]

More Russian Missiles
have hit Ukraine
Murdering 14 people.

Hitting a Hospital.


Ref:WION HD Live.

[Sticks]

Time to surrender to Putin there before more people die

Oh wait that war criminal failed comedian and dictator Zolensky won't allow it

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

Documentary Tonight
BBC2HD 9PM Putin Vs the West
1 of 3

He (Johnson) talks of how Putin told him on the Phone
would get rid of him via a Missile.

[UserSince2005]

Boris would slap that bastard back to Siberia.

[bitontheslide]

He may have bombed Boris, but 1 minute later, Russia would not exist

[Sticks]

So will the Boris Haters now start praising Putin?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

Documentary Tonight
BBC2HD 9PM Putin Vs the West
1 of 3

He (Johnson) talks of how Putin told him on the Phone
would get rid of him via a Missile.

Putin denies that.

Who do you believe, Putin or Boris?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Putin denies that.

Who do you believe, Putin or Boris?

[arista]

Yesterdays Sun

[arista]

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Sticks

So will the Boris Haters now start praising Putin?

I hope so.

But seriously nobody should be praising Putin invading another nation, not even the regular people of Russia, as they wouldn't like it if America or China decided to invade their country.

[Alf]

Trump could end this in 24 hours.

Youtube video

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Trump could end this in 24 hours.

Youtube video

Sure Alf
but he is not in power.

President Biden is sending his Tanks

[arista]

Evil Putin
clip from today was on Ch4HDnews

He Stated "Germany is sending their tanks
and they were Nazi's"
And then said "he will deal with them."


This is the Problem
all these tanks are moving slow
Putin is watching it all.


His Missiles and Endless Iran Made Cheap bomb Drones
are getting through..................

[MTVN]

My phone reminded me that a year ago today I was visiting Chernobyl. 3 weeks after that the Russians took control of it

[bitontheslide]

The UK today started training ukrainian forces in flying our fighter jets ..... not difficult to guess what comes next