[Soldier Boy]

I don't know what the difference between "long Covid" and bog standard PVFS (with a side of some lung damage that takes a few months to recover for some) is... Post-viral fatigue isn't a new condition and has always been a risk after having a nasty bug.

I've mentioned before that I had a bug way back in I think 2017 that wasn't even that bad, but I had horrendous post-viral symptoms that went on for months.

And a Uni friend of mine took nearly 12 months to fully recover from the glandular fever he caught on Freshers Week. I used to like to knock his door in the early morning because for the first few hours every day his face was puffed up like a beach ball and I found it really funny, so it was a nice way to start the day. He looked like a chubby hamster ... Ahh good times.

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

That is good news but what happens if they get Covid again?

It could go back to another long covid,
again.


It appears they can no longer, smell
and have trouble eating some foods.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

It could go back to another long covid,
again.


It appears they can no longer, smell
and have trouble eating some foods.

That is a horrible side effect

[bitontheslide]

I don't think there is a simple answer to long covid. The original covid variant was a lower lung infection that also attacked other major organs. The long term effects after catching that could be horrendous. The omicron variant is an upper respiratory disease which is a completely different kettle of fish with long term effects likely to be much less severe.

The upshot is that this term, long covid, really cant be defined until we have had years of a more stable virus

[LeatherTrumpet]

Youtube video

[arista]

The 8 Nations Numbers
Covid-19
Source : WHO
Over the Last 7 Days.

USA
415,000 Cases
3,922 Deaths

Japan
902,134 Cases
2,805 Deaths

South Korea
261,487 Cases
345 Deaths

Australia
191,750
742 Deaths

France
42,328 Cases
469 Deaths

Germany
73,651 Cases
76 Deaths

Italy
43,554 Cases
343 Deaths

Brazil
107,885 Cases
419 Deaths


Ref : WION HD Gravitas Pt 1 SkyHD 519

[LeatherTrumpet]

3.40 he absolutely loses it!

Youtube video

also from 6.00 on these figures may shock you

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

3.40 he absolutely loses it!

Youtube video

also from 6.00 on these figures may shock you

He's been losing it gradually for months LT . As always some of his stats and figures are interesting, I broadly agree that it's time to put a pause on broad-scale vaccination, and yes the figures about the money are "shocking" but also not shocking or surprising at all for anyone who has any idea about Big Pharma.

I can listen to him when he talks stats - his background is as a researcher - but again on his righteous fury I have to advise caution for those confused by his title. He is NOT a medical doctor of any kind, nor does he have ANY expertise in virology or immunology.

He's not all the way down the rabbit hole but he certainly pops his head in for a peek at increasing intervals.

[Zizu]

This morning on the radio I heard that in the last 6 weeks a further 170,000 have died from Covid … presumably worldwide as it didn’t say .. they did add that Covid isn’t expected to be much of a threat after this year ..


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[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Zizu

This morning on the radio I heard that in the last 6 weeks a further 170,000 have died from Covid … presumably worldwide as it didn’t say .. they did add that Covid isn’t expected to be much of a threat after this year ..


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Global figures would currently be meaningless because China, with something like 1/5 of the world's population, managed to suppress it for 3 years and are now getting hit with it like the rest of the world was back in 2020/early 2021.

[bitontheslide]

we need to hear the stats how many died from flu vs covid in the uk this winter, that would give us a sensible perspective

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I can listen to him when he talks stats - his background is as a researcher - but again on his righteous fury I have to advise caution for those confused by his title. He is NOT a medical doctor of any kind, nor does he have ANY expertise in virology or immunology.

and the good thing about the man and the channel is the above people who he is not are more than welcome to challenge any specific points he makes and he then publishes and corrects (rarely happens)

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

we need to hear the stats how many died from flu vs covid in the uk this winter, that would give us a sensible perspective

I doubt those stats fully exist to be honest, either way it'll mostly be the elderly and their cause of death will probably be along the lines of pneumonia, respiratory failure, heart failure etc.

You'd have to rely on secondary causes of death being accurately reported/recorded which TBH they just aren't usually. There are lots of questions when a young/fit/healthy person dies, but when a 85+ year old dies of any of the above that's just a normal "old age death".

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and the good thing about the man and the channel is the above people who he is not are more than welcome to challenge any specific points he makes and he then publishes and corrects (rarely happens)

Yes but he's started drawing or at least suggesting conclusions from the data he presents which he (originally, and rightly) always said wasn't where he was ever going to go with it. The videos have a clear slant to them these days, and are geared towards an audience that happens to have been attracted to his content. You even pointed out yourself that he "loses it" at one point. That's a judgement of the data, not an academic presentation of the data. It can only be.

[Alf]

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Yes but he's started drawing or at least suggesting conclusions from the data he presents which he (originally, and rightly) always said wasn't where he was ever going to go with it. The videos have a clear slant to them these days, and are geared towards an audience that happens to have been attracted to his content. You even pointed out yourself that he "loses it" at one point. That's a judgement of the data, not an academic presentation of the data. It can only be.

show me an academic presentation of the data



that is the whole point

[LeatherTrumpet]

[LeatherTrumpet]

Did you know The Army were deleting social media posts about Lockdown?

Youtube video

[arista]

[Did you know The Army were deleting social media posts about Lockdown?]

Yes MOD
has that right

[LeatherTrumpet]

[LeatherTrumpet]

Youtube video

[arista]

Australia is now offering the 5th Vaccine
for 18 and above.

Like the UK

Reported on WION HD Gravitas Part 1

[arista]

Patients in hospital (England Only)
Latest available
6,382

[117 of them Patients in ventilation beds]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deta...eaName=England


Meanwhile, in the USA they are going to stop
paying for Covid Tests.
The Public will have to buy them.

[bitontheslide]

Camilla, the Queen Consort, has tested positive for Covid, Buckingham Palace has announced.

She is said to be suffering cold symptoms and has cancelled her public engagements for the week.

The Queen Consort, aged 75, had already pulled out of a planned visit to the West Midlands on Tuesday.

She has previously had Covid and is understood to be fully vaccinated and is said to be resting and in "good spirits".

Royal sources say there are no changes planned for the King's engagements this week.

Buckingham Palace had initially said that the Queen Consort was cancelling a trip because of a "seasonal illness", but she has subsequently tested positive for Covid.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Camilla, the Queen Consort, has tested positive for Covid, Buckingham Palace has announced.

She is said to be suffering cold symptoms and has cancelled her public engagements for the week.

The Queen Consort, aged 75, had already pulled out of a planned visit to the West Midlands on Tuesday.

She has previously had Covid and is understood to be fully vaccinated and is said to be resting and in "good spirits".

Royal sources say there are no changes planned for the King's engagements this week.

Buckingham Palace had initially said that the Queen Consort was cancelling a trip because of a "seasonal illness", but she has subsequently tested positive for Covid.

why on earth are they testing for covid?

mental