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08-03-2023, 01:53 PM | #26 | |||
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08-03-2023, 01:55 PM | #27 | |||
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When people say 1930's they usually mean early 1930's, which was really ... err... Nazi foreplay. There was a drip-feeding of blame culture and nudging of mindsets that took place as a warm-up act for full-blown Naziism.
To be fair though the comparison isn't exactly right - the Nazis were secular, I reckon it's evangelical fascism we have incoming. Just as bad and twice as creepy. |
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08-03-2023, 02:01 PM | #28 | |||
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08-03-2023, 02:01 PM | #29 | |||
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08-03-2023, 02:03 PM | #30 | |||
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Funny how the Left have to go to extremes and lies to try to win the argument.
How about coming up with a plan, Gary, instead of saying Sunak is the new Hitler. Crazy, crazy. And very stupid. |
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08-03-2023, 02:08 PM | #31 | |||
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08-03-2023, 02:10 PM | #32 | |||
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I'd larf if the BBC sacked him. But I don't think they'd have the balls. No pun intended.
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08-03-2023, 02:14 PM | #33 | |||
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I don't want anyone sacked for their views, unless they directly call for violence. I want Linekar to speak more, so we know exactly what he meant.
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08-03-2023, 02:19 PM | #34 | |||
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This is the problem,I can see why people would criticise Sunak. And Starmer is loving this ...but if Starmer was in power how would he come up with a solution.
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08-03-2023, 02:53 PM | #35 | |||
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08-03-2023, 02:58 PM | #36 | |||
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I agreeZizu, he needs to stay with what hes good at,what was that again ? lol.
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08-03-2023, 03:01 PM | #37 | |||
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08-03-2023, 03:47 PM | #38 | |||
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He just is coming off like a middle aged blue and pink haired lefty at a demo with a pre printed socialist worker plaque saying all refugees welcome
I don't really think he is very bright |
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08-03-2023, 03:47 PM | #39 | |||
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08-03-2023, 05:59 PM | #40 | ||
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This situation where it's like the BBC own who is on it is rather unnerving.
I find Lineker annoying even presenting Match of the Day. However had he said this ON the programme or on the BBC. Then the criticism would be justified. I find his view over the top on the German inclusion section, however the comments of scaremongering and wild figure chanting of Braverman are in my view far worse. Her view seems greatly unsavoury to me and concerning. He shouldn't be sacked. Maybe ITV could buy up Match of the Day from the BBC. Then like people such as Clarkson , Lineker could say what he liked and even possibly get applauded for it. No matter how bad the content. |
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08-03-2023, 06:03 PM | #41 | |||
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there have been loads of tv presenters, radio presenters, college lecturers etc etc etc that have lost their jobs because of what they said on twitter, the bbc is not unique
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08-03-2023, 06:16 PM | #42 | ||
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Lineker is also a voter. He has every right to comment on those elected to parliament and on policies as any other voter. If he did this on a programme on the BBC fair enough. He is outspoken. I don't care for Lineker but I don't really see the fuss about this. Calling out loads of deceivers and even at times blatant liars regardless of political persuasion should be a service, not stifled. Because more don't speak out, that's in part where power mad politicians get away with near anything. |
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08-03-2023, 08:04 PM | #43 | |||
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Yeah but in 1930s Germany what were the Jews actually doing that was so bad?
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08-03-2023, 08:39 PM | #44 | |||
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irrespective, Lineker has now said he wont be shut up, the only people that can remove him from twitter is twitter, and he will continue to speak out. Also, he is not a BBC employee, he is a freelancer, so we will see how it ends up, but my view is that he will be taken off the BBC. Quite frankly, i wont be watching any more shows he is on. He may not have made the comments on air at the bbc, but everyone knows his attitude now, and it is my freedom to not put up with it
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08-03-2023, 09:03 PM | #45 | ||||||
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The whole 'Don't criticise the government unless you're in charge of the government' logic is so ****ing sad and bootlicker-y. Anyone can criticise the government, and they should. If you don't like that, I'd recommend moving to North Korea, you'd probably like it there but for the rest of us sane people, we will criticise the government whenever we please, because it's our right to do so. Quote:
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You are happy with the BBC basically being a right wing mouthpiece but you are putting on the amateur dramatics pretending this is about impartiality when the BBC isn't impartial in the first place, it's just partial to your opinions and you don't like opinions that run contrary to that. Just another person doing mental gymnastics to try to justify that they hate freedom of speech. |
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08-03-2023, 09:04 PM | #46 | |||
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Sounds very snowflakey to me, but you do you, if you need a safe space away from being triggered by people who don’t like the actions of the government then that’s your right, I just hope to not see you criticise other people in the future for practicing the same liberties
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08-03-2023, 09:11 PM | #47 | |||
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While I do agree that his remarks were OTT, I do also think that there should be certain scenarios where we do help out Illegal Immigrants.
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08-03-2023, 09:14 PM | #48 | |||
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08-03-2023, 09:18 PM | #49 | ||
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08-03-2023, 09:19 PM | #50 | |||
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He should be entitled to his view, regardless of what anyone else thinks.
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