[arista]

Starmer to fix
the Broken Brexit Deal???

[Tom4784]

Starmer won't fix anything. He's worthless.

He's already gone back on election promises and we're nowhere near an election yet. If Labour has any hope of winning that election, Keir Starmer and his discriples need to step down. They've done too much damage to voter trust.

[The Slim Reaper]

[arista]

Labour Claims it will allow HS2 the Full route?


Ref: Politics Live BBC2HD
today.

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

Labour Claims it will allow HS2 the Full route?


Ref: Politics Live BBC2HD
today.

when they win the election and there is a note left for them saying there is no money left, the HS2 will be scrapped

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

when they win the election and there is a note left for them saying there is no money left, the HS2 will be scrapped

I doubt that.

[joeysteele]

Starmer has really annoyed me.

Mark Drakeford, the First Minister of Wales has called for Starmer to include PR as policy in the election.
He states, that's not what matters at this time.

He may not be saying that IF he lost the next election because without it as policy to be enacted, he could find he doesn't get anything like an overall majority in the next election.
With it as policy, he'd walk the next election.

How he dare ignore the massive overwhelming vote at conference for it last year is ridiculous.

If any Party really wants to change politics and make it better, then PR is part of the answer.
As ALL other Parties except the Cons, know it is and want it.

Someone closer to Starmer please shake him up and wake him up to PR.

[arista]

SkyNews Text:
[Telegraph reports, as Labour prepares for
a "tax raid on up to two million pension pots".]

[arista]

Starmer Now Live


Going over his 5 points


Talking about his Policing Plan.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Starmer Now Live


Going over his 5 points


Talking about his Policing Plan.

Groan!!

Just in case there's anyone who hasn't heard numerous times that he was Director of Public Prosecutions.
He's just reminded us again.

Think I'll have a nap.

[arista]

SkyNews Text:
Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer's pension from
his time as Director of Public Prosecutions is exempt
from tax rules he would apply to workers
who save more than Ł1m.

[arista]

Labour Leader Starmer
Saying over 10 Years he will improve Policing?

Now the Parliament Terms 5 Years
not 10.

It is Arrogant to think he can win
a Election in 5 years time,


This is what the Conservatives do
Joey

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Labour Leader Starmer
Saying over 10 Years he will improve Policing?

Now the Parliament Terms 5 Years
not 10.

It is Arrogant to think he can win
a Election in 5 years time,


This is what the Conservatives do
Joey

I think if he wins the next election, he could win the one after especially if he included PR for the 3rd election after.
It can be done policies would take 10 years to fully be successful.
I don't mind that.

However he has to win the next one first.

As to his pension.
Labour has said they will deal with such pensions and he has said that will include his own.
That's fully acceptable..
His pension is part of the contract of anyone at the DPP.
He is right to put it in there with his policy of dealing with them if he wins.
That's fair

[arista]

He gave a interview with Ch4HDnews

He will change Pensions,
if he wins,

The Reporter asked why he is not so popular,
He said as time goes on,
he is getting good responses.

[GoldHeart]

Labour needs a new leader, but I guess that won't be happening .

[Tom4784]

Keir Starmer is an absolute desperate **** and he's going to fumble what should be an easy win for labour at the next election.

Just a hideous tory in disguise desperate to appeal to tory voters while alienating the actual demographics that would have voted for him. One of the most incompetent cretins I've seen in UK politics.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

He gave a interview with Ch4HDnews

He will change Pensions,
if he wins,

The Reporter asked why he is not so popular,
He said as time goes on,
he is getting good responses.

At this time he's one of the weakest in presentation of a leader we could have in Labour at present.
However while he is getting a few more good responses, there is one stark fact for me.

People will vote Labour more in the next election, not however because of Starmer.
It will be a soft return and vote for Labour mainly because a good number of voters have lost any kind of respect for this Con government.

Which is why Starmer needs to spell out good and wanted policies.
Because if things fail or appear to be failing, it will be a one term government
Unless a bloodbath comes about in the Con Party after an election defeat.

We've absolutely terrible leaders of all 3 Parties.
Sunak has a record of deceit and failure from his Johnson days.
He's moved the polling a few percentage points but he needs to get at least 2/3% ahead of Labour to have any chance of even a single figure majority.

Starmer is terrible too.
He's not taking on board the policies which are longed for.
Plus he's annoying the whole Party by rejecting so far, PR for the next election.
I'm a Labour member and honestly I could drop off to sleep when he's explaining a policy or idea.
As bad as he is, he could however be in the right place at the right time, ONLY with the now intense dislike of the current set up in the Cons.

As for Davey in the Lib Dems, not as deluded as Jo Swinson, however he's still tarnished by his time in the coalition with the Cons right up to only so far 8 years ago still.
Plus it's like he's in hibernation most of the time.

There's not even a just fair leader in all 3 of our old main Parties.
That's a sad position for our political state at this crucial time.

The next election looks like it's now Labour's to lose.
However it will NOT be a vote FOR Labour but a test.
Plus more than likely now votes AGAINST these current Cons due to the deceit, the lies and near gross incompetence still rearing it's head.
By most of all the old faded and failed Cabinet ministers who have claimed to loyally support the policies of the last 4 Con PMs since 2019.
Now seen as only political backside crawlers.
NOT genuine individuals.

I despair often that we in Labour have Starmer as leader currently.
However do I want him in power rather than the Cons.
Absolutely I do.

HOWEVER.
I'd prefer it to be a hung parliament where he'd need another Party to support him as PM.
Plus a Party which will push for PR in all future elections.
I don't want a Blair type win.
I'm fed up of over 55% of voters voting against the party who ends up getting a big overall majority for anything from under 40% up to only 44% of the votes.

Thereby the minority ending up dictating to the majority of voters.
That's a very poor democracy in my view.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the HS2 will be scrapped

Hope so.

Just not worth it.

[arista]

[Oliver_W]

For gods' sake, leave savings, investments and especially pensions alone!!

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

For Slim

[bots]

so how are the local councils then going to provide all the services that we need? Its the most stupid statement he has made this week

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Tom4784

Starmer won't fix anything. He's worthless.

He's already gone back on election promises and we're nowhere near an election yet. If Labour has any hope of winning that election, Keir Starmer and his discriples need to step down. They've done too much damage to voter trust.

Tbh he is very lucky that people are fed up of the Tories.