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Old 27-03-2023, 03:13 PM #76
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Default The issue of self-ID has proven toxic for the SNP and Labour.




You’ll lose the election on day one of the campaign, unless you change your
position on trans rights.” That was the stark warning issued to Labour leader
Sir Keir Starmer by a key adviser earlier this month.
Focus groups and
polling had led the adviser to put it in such blunt terms. Two years ago, he
promised Labour would introduce self-ID, but on Thursday, Starmer tacked.
“I think that if we reflect on what’s happened in Scotland, the lesson I take
from that is that if you’re going to make reforms, you have to carry the
public with you.”

Like most politicians and indeed media commentators, Starmer has found
this issue an extremely difficult one. When asked by my LBC colleague Nick
Ferrari, “What is a woman?” last year, the Labour leader flailed around and
gave an
unconvincing answer. Mumsnet was besieged by outraged mothers saying
they wouldn’t vote Labour if he didn’t unequivocally stand by women’s rights.


His colleague Wes Streeting got it right when he answered the same question: “Men have penises, women have
vaginas, here ends my biology lesson.” He then added: “That doesn’t mean, by the way, that there aren’t people who
transition to other genders because they experience gender dysphoria, and we should acknowledge that and conduct
the debate in a respectful way that respects those people’s rights and dignity.”

That, surely, is where most reasonable people stand, whether on the Left or the Right. But we are called "Terfs by the
more intolerant transgender-rights activists. This stands for Transgender Exclusionary Radical Feminist. In other
words, as gay men, Streeting and I are classed as bigots because we don’t follow the uncompromising agenda of
allowing anyone to self-identify with no restrictions. Nothing could be further from the truth, but just by writing this
article I know my Twitter timeline will probably be unreadable for the next few days.

Not all trans people agree with the Gender Recognition Bill, which has done so much to rip the SNP asunder. Indeed, a
transgender woman from the Shetland Isles phoned into my SNP leadership debate a week ago to make that point,
and to ask the three candidates how many trans people they had actually spoken to before arriving at a position on
self-ID.

Last weekend, in a little noted decision, the Liberal Democrat Spring Conference passed a motion which urged anyone
in the party who didn’t subscribe to full self ID and the wider trans agenda to leave the party. How very “liberal” of
them.

The whole issue is toxic for politicians of all parties. No wonder few politicians want to put their heads above the
parapet. Penny Mordaunt was one who did, and lived to regret it. I have little doubt she would be prime minister
today had her opponents not been able to ruthlessly exploit her stance on trans rights.

If Starmer moves towards a more sceptical position, he will offend the liberals who dominate the upper echelons of
his party. Yet if he doesn’t, he will attract the opprobrium of perfectly decent potential Labour voters. It ought to be
possible for a political party to contain people with all sorts of views on gender, but tolerance is a word modern day
politics appear to eschew.

So far the issue hasn’t consumed the Conservative Party, but as it becomes an integral part of the intensifying culture
wars, it may not just be the Labour leader who has a potentially uncomfortable decision to make.

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Exclamation USA:News Anchor Hasn't Been On the Air Since Quoting Snoop Dogg During Broadcast

WLBT's Barbie Bassett, who is White, quoted a famous Snoop
Dogg phrase that included a made up snoop word "nizzle" for N-word



(I had no idea that nizzle was the n-word and i bet she did not either, did you?)



A Mississippi news anchor and meteorologist has not been on the air since
quoting a famous Snoop Dogg phrase that included a made up snoop word for the n-word

WLBT's Barbie Bassett, who is White, made the comment during a broadcast
earlier this month while discussing a new release from the rapper's wine collection, according to The Clarion Ledger.

When a colleague joked about Bassett getting a tattoo of the rapper, like
Martha Stewart did in a recent commercial, Bassett replied affirmatively,
saying "Fo shizzle, my nizzle," .

Although the station has not commented publicly on the matter, her bio is not listed on WLBT's website, the Ledger reported.

https://people.com/human-interest/mi...ng-snoop-dogg/

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Thumbs up How Britain is being run by a ‘New Elite’ of radical woke middle-class liberals

This is a very interesting watch - the chap making a lot of sense




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WLBT's Barbie Bassett, who is White, quoted a famous Snoop
Dogg phrase that included a made up snoop word "nizzle" for N-word



(I had no idea that nizzle was the n-word and i bet she did not either, did you?)



A Mississippi news anchor and meteorologist has not been on the air since
quoting a famous Snoop Dogg phrase that included a made up snoop word for the n-word

WLBT's Barbie Bassett, who is White, made the comment during a broadcast
earlier this month while discussing a new release from the rapper's wine collection, according to The Clarion Ledger.

When a colleague joked about Bassett getting a tattoo of the rapper, like
Martha Stewart did in a recent commercial, Bassett replied affirmatively,
saying "Fo shizzle, my nizzle," .

Although the station has not commented publicly on the matter, her bio is not listed on WLBT's website, the Ledger reported.

https://people.com/human-interest/mi...ng-snoop-dogg/

poor lady
That's really harsh if she didn't actually use the N-word.
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Thumbs down Children allowed to self-declare gender at nearly half of schools

Parents kept in the dark as teachers increasingly turn to external agencies that
promote 'controversial and contested beliefs', warns report


Downing Street is being urged to intervene by MPs and peers in light of the
findings.

Freedom of Information requests to more than 300 state secondary schools in
England have found that 40 per cent are allowing children to self-declare their
gender.

The research, by the think tank Policy Exchange, also found that more than 30
per cent of schools are failing to inform their Designated Safeguarding Lead
when a child wishes to change gender.

FOI responses collected by Policy Exchange showed that 72 per cent of
econdary schools are now teaching that people have a gender identity that
may be different from their biological sex, while 25 per cent are teaching that
some people or children “may be born in the wrong body”.

Rosie Duffield, the Labour MP and prominent women’s rights campaigner,
said: “This Government has failed children by allowing partisan beliefs to
become entrenched within the education system. Meanwhile, the Opposition
has failed to pull them up on it.”

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They should teach biology not ideology.
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All day long on LBC there are "teachers" calling up saying that if say a male child wants to be called a girls name, dress like a girl, use girls loos, and play girls sports just because they asked a teacher then that is fine and the school should not tell the parents

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All day long on LBC there are "teachers" calling up saying that if say a male child wants to be called a girls name, dress like a girl, use girls loos, and play girls sports just because they asked a teacher then that is fine and the school should not tell the parents

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I was listening to one the other day. A teacher, explaining how her son told her at 3byr old he wanted to be a girl. Shes pushed it ever since in my opinion.
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I was listening to one the other day. A teacher, explaining how her son told her at 3byr old he wanted to be a girl. Shes pushed it ever since in my opinion.
its always the mum and often when they wanted a girl
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Exclamation only trans actors can play trans characters in acting??

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So trans actors can't play non-trans parts. Fair enough.
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So trans actors can't play non-trans parts. Fair enough.
seems fair enough indeed


but in terms of gay or lesbian, they can play straight characters, one soap actor in my nation (Everon Jackson Hooi, whom is gay, but his character in GTST ''Bing Mauricius'' is married to a woman in that series, and he pulls that role off very very well)
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but in terms of gay or lesbian, they can play straight characters, one soap actor in my nation (Everon Jackson Hooi, whom is gay, but his character in GTST ''Bing Mauricius'' is married to a woman in that series, and he pulls that role off very very well)
Lots of straight people have played gay people and lots of gay people have played straight people. It's called acting. I have no idea why trans actors would want to limit their roles but hey, they know best.
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People now moan when a abled bodied person plays a disabled person or someone with a learning disability or condition.

I don't care what anyone says if an actor is good enough and believable ... then they can play most parts. The actress who played Haley in Corrie did just fine.

And Dustin Hoffman in rain man was amazing .

Also this seems a one way street as trans people wouldn't want to be limited in their roles .

I saw the sequel to Escape room and a trans actress was one of the players but clearly her character was not trans/ no mention of it ( she was the same actress from Pose) ,so I guess they can play anything then ?? ... interesting. But it's offensive the other way around?.
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So trans actors can't play non-trans parts. Fair enough.
Tbh I do wonder how many good Trans Actors are really out there?

I think that the Trans community do themselves harm when some of them are setting such unrealistic standards to the Hollywood executives.
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Tbh I do wonder how many good Trans Actors are really out there?

I think that the Trans community do themselves harm when some of them are setting such unrealistic standards to the Hollywood executives.
there is no trans community and never has been

there is a men filled trans mob however, that hates women
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Man in a wig showing his tolerance towards others. #transnazis.

The testosterone is just dripping off this woman.

Notice how the police didn't see this as threatening behaviour before it got to the stage it did.




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Man in a wig showing his tolerance towards others. #transnazis.

The testosterone is just dripping off this woman.

Notice how the police didn't see this as threatening behaviour before it got to the stage it did.



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