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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65901005
[At least 78 migrants have drowned and more than 100 have been rescued after their fishing vessel capsized off the coast of southern Greece. The shipwreck is the deadliest off Greece this year. It is unclear how many people were on the boat when it sank about 50 miles (80 km) south-west of Pylos. But Greek officials and the International Organization for Migration (IOM) say that hundreds of people could have been on board. Greece's coastguard said the boat was spotted in international waters late on Tuesday by an aircraft belonging to EU border agency Frontex. The coastguard said that the passengers "refused any help" and that none on board were wearing life jackets.] tragic. Last edited by arista; 17-06-2023 at 02:17 AM. |
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Offered help and refused why?? obviously preferred to drown
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Yes very strange
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Ch4HDnews just stated
more than 100 were saved It was on route from Libya to Italy The Number of the Dead is expected to rise. Last edited by arista; 14-06-2023 at 06:23 PM. |
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[Greece boat disaster: Capsized boat had 100 children in hold ]
Sadly, the Children Drown Fast https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65914476 Around 750 overloaded on the ship ![]() Last edited by arista; 15-06-2023 at 12:17 PM. |
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#StopTheBoats find the people smugglers and charge them with the murders of all the lives lost.
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The migrant crisis isn't going to end while they're around.
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Libya is a Mess of a Nation There are no proper connections with such a Corrupt Leadership These Ships full of loads of Migrants will carry on, sadly. They will overload more ships as that makes more Cash for the Evil People Smugglers Last edited by arista; 15-06-2023 at 01:02 PM. |
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It's not policing the world, as the migrant crisis affects us too.
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The greek coastguard believes there were 750 people on board
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Yes the death toll will go up
of course, many bodies will drift far away, in the Rough sea. So total death count may never by updated Overloaded ships makes bigger Cash Amounts for the Evil Smuggler Gangs in Libya Last edited by arista; 15-06-2023 at 02:45 PM. |
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hopefully it will deter others
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They all paid €5,000 each.
Around 600 missing Last edited by arista; 15-06-2023 at 06:58 PM. |
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BBC Newsnight
started a report from Tunisia waters showed a Fisherman who has had to take a break as dead bodies, including dead babies floating. He has been offered Big Cash from the Evil Smugglers for his Fishing Boat /Ship. The Boats are over packed with illegal migrants, and that Med Sea can be calm but a few mins later a big wind. They died in the Deep Sea. |
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This is not Greece's Fault
The Evil Smugglers Over Packed a Former Fishing Boat/Ship The Sea will eat it up. No Children or women that were, below have not been found. 9 Smugglers were arrested, in Greece Last edited by arista; 17-06-2023 at 02:22 AM. |
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I don’t know what they are expected to find in Europe? All there people have already ruined this entire continent
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who do not care if they sink, tell them to start from Italy then to connect with Germany or via another Cost a small boat to travel to Kent, England or other EU nations. Ch4HDnews a few months back interviewed a Rich Human Smuggler, based in Libya. Last edited by arista; 17-06-2023 at 12:54 PM. |
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The BBC has obtained evidence casting doubt on the Greek coastguard's account of the migrant shipwreck in which hundreds are feared to have died.
Analysis of the movement of other ships in the area suggests the overcrowded fishing vessel was not moving for at least seven hours before it capsized. The coastguard still claims that during these hours the boat was on a course to Italy and not in need of rescue. Greek authorities have not yet responded to the BBC's findings. But the UN has called for an investigation into Greece's handling of the disaster, amid claims more action should have been taken earlier to initiate a full-scale rescue attempt. Greek officials maintain those on board said they did not want help and were not in danger until just before their boat sank. The BBC has obtained a computer animation of tracking data provided by MarineTraffic, a maritime analytics platform. Their data shows hours of activity focused on a small, specific area where the migrant boat later sank, casting doubt on the official claim it had no problems with its navigation. The fishing boat had no tracker so is not shown on the map. Neither are coastguard and military vessels which do not have to share their location. Frontex, the EU's border force, says it first spotted the migrant boat at around 08:00 GMT on Tuesday and informed the Greek authorities. Alarm Phone, an emergency hotline for migrants in trouble at sea, say they received a call at 12:17 GMT saying the boat was in distress. We have used video and photographs authenticated by BBC Verify, as well as court records and shipping logs, to analyse the movement of vessels in the area in the following hours. The Marine Traffic animation shows a ship called the Lucky Sailor abruptly turning north at 15:00 GMT. The owner of the Lucky Sailor gave us its log book and confirmed it had been asked by the Coastguard to approach the migrant boat and give food and water. About half-an-hour later at 15:35 GMT, the coastguard helicopter found the migrant boat. Authorities have continued to claim it was on a steady course at the time. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65942426 ------------------------------------------------------ Greece hasn't been telling the truth |
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