[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Is someone on the forum regretting making a thread?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Is someone on the forum regretting making a thread?

why?

If you recall I made the thread before anyone knew who it was about

Its interesting now to see the same media outlets that lauded Brand for being a serial shagger and could not get enough of him now turn up their noses now that the mood music of the future has changed...

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why?

Its interesting now to see the same media outlets that lauded Brand for being a serial shagger and could not get enough of him now turn up their noses now that the mood music of the future has changed...

"Even" way back in the mid-2000s, the media outlets could tell the difference between someone who's a wild seed-slinger, and an abuser.

In the Big Mouth days, I don't think he'd even openly spoken about his sex addiction, let alone had any accusations come to light.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

As did Trump and Dan Wootton ..


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[arista]

Yes LT

It will all depend,
on if the UK women want to go to the Police.

In the USA
his USA Lawyers are fighting some cases.
One, a young girl he raped

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Mate it's been a long time coming. I wouldn't suggest that everyone with a sex addiction would be likely to be a predator, but Brand's behaviour has been all-but known for years.

How have all the rock and pop stars avoided prosecution for decades ??


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[bots]

Originally Posted by Zizu

How have all the rock and pop stars avoided prosecution for decades ??


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it's about power and influence. When people have friends in power, they are protected, but after a while, those people are no longer in a position to protect them and the floodgates open

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why?

If you recall I made the thread before anyone knew who it was about

Its interesting now to see the same media outlets that lauded Brand for being a serial shagger and could not get enough of him now turn up their noses now that the mood music of the future has changed...

Yes Very True
Toby Youngs tweet helped you.


Ian Dale knew it was Brand
on Friday.


All of a Sudden, Yesterday afternoon
both BBCnewsHD and SkyNewsHD
changed to naming Brand.


Of course, it was the moment
Sunday Times Article went online

[AnnieK]

How can these kind of allegations keep getting p ublished? Surely allegations of this seriousness shpuld be left to the Police and only when charges are made should they be made public. If this were to go to Court surely it will ve very difficult to find jury members who have not already decided if he is guilty or not as they will have been unable to avoid the case so surely that will prejudice any trial.

The guy is a sleaze, always has been but both he and his alleged victims deserve a fair trial and being splashed all over the papers won't acheive anything. The media should have a duty of care to report anything like this to the police or aid the vuctims in doing so

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

How can these kind of allegations keep getting p ublished? Surely allegations of this seriousness shpuld be left to the Police and only when charges are made should they be made public. If this were to go to Court surely it will ve very difficult to find jury members who have not already decided if he is guilty or not as they will have been unable to avoid the case so surely that will prejudice any trial.

The guy is a sleaze, always has been but both he and his alleged victims deserve a fair trial and being splashed all over the papers won't acheive anything. The media should have a duty of care to report anything like this to the police or aid the vuctims in doing so

they wont sell papers going to the police.

[UserSince2005]

He needs locking up for a very long time

[UserSince2005]

I’m going to my copy of my booky wook tonight

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Zizu

How have all the rock and pop stars avoided prosecution for decades ??


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Stayed in line.

[arista]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

How can these kinds of allegations keep getting published? Surely allegations of this seriousness should be left to the Police and only when charges are made should they be made public. If this were to go to Court surely it will be very difficult to find jury members who have not already decided if he is guilty or not as they will have been unable to avoid the case, so surely that will prejudice any trial.

The guy is a sleaze, always has been, but both he and his alleged victims deserve a fair trial and being splashed all over the papers won't achieve anything. The media should have a duty of care to report anything like this to the police or aid the victims in doing so

The Problem is
it is America and the UK.


Already cases from women in California
are fighting his Lawyers

[Cherie]

Watched the Dispatches programme now and its unfortunately more of the same, management in the BBC and C4 fully aware of his behaviour but promoting him time and time again because of his 'popularity', how did Jonathan Ross survive the Andrew Sachs call? but he did ...I never liked Brand or his type of humour but when you see it now, you wonder how on earth he got away with it, but he did and he was lauded for it, serial shagger of the year just like Randy Andy was lauded for it back in the day, they cant wring their hands now because they were all fully aware but the big bucks were rolling in....the radio interview with Jimmy Saville must haunt Brand every day of his life ....unbelievable.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Watched the Dispatches programme now and its unfortunately more of the same, management in the BBC and C4 fully aware of his behaviour but promoting him time and time again because of his 'popularity', how did Jonathan Ross survive the Andrew Sachs call? but he did ...I never liked Brand or his type of humour but when you see it now, you wonder how on earth he got away with it, but he did and he was lauded for it, serial shagger of the year just like Randy Andy was lauded for it back in the day, they cant wring their hands now because they were all fully aware but the big bucks were rolling in....the radio interview with Jimmy Saville must haunt Brand every day of his life ....unbelievable.

Yes
the 16 year old girl rape
is wrong.


I am glad it is on again tonight
10:50PM Ch4HD

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

How can these kind of allegations keep getting p ublished? Surely allegations of this seriousness shpuld be left to the Police and only when charges are made should they be made public. If this were to go to Court surely it will ve very difficult to find jury members who have not already decided if he is guilty or not as they will have been unable to avoid the case so surely that will prejudice any trial.

The guy is a sleaze, always has been but both he and his alleged victims deserve a fair trial and being splashed all over the papers won't acheive anything. The media should have a duty of care to report anything like this to the police or aid the vuctims in doing so

Couldn’t agree more.

[UserSince2005]

Can dermot be exposed now?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Zizu

How have all the rock and pop stars avoided prosecution for decades ??


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We all saw how Johnny Depp got away with years of physical abuse against his ex wife.

[arista]

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

For perhaps the 1.5 millionth time on this forum: being cleared at trial of rape (or on appeal, or it never going to trial at all, or charges never even being pursued by police) does not mean that "the women lied". Less than 1% of rapes result in a conviction because, by default, there are very rarely independent witnesses making lack of consent near-impossible to prove beyond reasonable doubt, even when injury has occurred.

The assumption that a victim has lied when a perpetrator isn't found guilty in court (which is the VAST majority of the time) is the very reason that most women don't even go to the police in the first place.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I mean these women did not even go to the Police

They went to a Sunday Paper..


as you do

[user104658]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

How can these kind of allegations keep getting p ublished? Surely allegations of this seriousness shpuld be left to the Police and only when charges are made should they be made public. If this were to go to Court surely it will ve very difficult to find jury members who have not already decided if he is guilty or not as they will have been unable to avoid the case so surely that will prejudice any trial.

The guy is a sleaze, always has been but both he and his alleged victims deserve a fair trial and being splashed all over the papers won't acheive anything. The media should have a duty of care to report anything like this to the police or aid the victims in doing so

Annie all I can say is, you are vastly overestimating the official process when it comes to sexual assault. This is unlikely to ever go to court. If it did, the jury would be biased and prejudiced by default There is no such thing as a "fair" rape trial - and the vast majority of rapists who go to trial walk out of court laughing and smiling, leaving the vast majority of rape victims further traumatised due to aggressive cross-examination by the defense, and branded "liars" by idiots who don't understand that "not proven guilty" doesn't mean "proven innocent".

I absolutely hate that it's necessary to say this but, if you know someone who is sexually assaulted and there aren't multiple witnesses (almost never happens) or SEVERE injury (bleeding and bruising isn't enough, we're talking hospitalisation) - especially if they know the person who did it or made the choice to be alone in a room with them - then they absolutely should not go to the police. They should go to NHS sexual assault services who can verify physical evidence and gather/store DNA evidence without involving police, and then think very, very hard abouot whether or not to take it further because the most likely scenario is making things far worse.

It is an absolutely sickening situation.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I mean these women did not even go to the Police

They went to a Sunday Paper..


as you do

See above, not that you believe it, or give enough of a stuff about women (or feel anything at all about them beyond ever more evident contempt) to care about sexual assault .

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I mean these women did not even go to the Police

They went to a Sunday Paper..


as you do

It gets their voices and their story heard, the parents of guy involved with Huw Edwards went to the police and got nada.... just speaking about it can be catharitic, not every one wants to go through a court case to arrive nowhere