[bots]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I usually find using desperate war situations in any cartoon sense really disrespectful.

The trauma, fear of loss of everything and life are not things to joke about.

However that caption in this one posted by arista.
May come to be more apt than maybe many would think or expect to come to be.

I just wish more was being done to independently monitor the aid needed in Gaza.
Plus get us some real reliable truth out too.

My sympathies lie with Israel against Hamas, absolutely.
However wrong Hamas are though it can never be likely that two wrongs will come to make a right .
This is a desperately sad time and frightening time for those it appears trapped in Gaza

pretty much all the news coming out of there now is misinformation of one form or another and what i find striking is that the media just parrot it.

We shouldn't look at specifics, because they can always be manipulated

[Nicky91]

i am also sick of me being called antisemitic, because i am NOT that


also sick of being told to shut up



the only good thing we can do is show sympathy for the innocents on both sides in this way too long taking conflict


also israel won't exterminate Hamas, since they aren't only in palestine, but also in some of the safer middle eastern countries (at least their leaders are)

[arista]

PM Sunak has held a Cobra meeting
today:


Debating,
what is going on in Russia
Violent Mob going after any Jews that landed
in a airport.


Making sure the UK does not get like that.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i am also sick of me being called antisemitic, because i am NOT that


also sick of being told to shut up



the only good thing we can do is show sympathy for the innocents on both sides in this way too long taking conflict


also israel won't exterminate Hamas, since they aren't only in palestine, but also in some of the safer middle eastern countries (at least their leaders are)

I've found that everyone who says anti-Semitic things go on to object to being called anti-Semitic.


I'd also just like to say to those demanding a ceasefire, there was a ceasefire. It was broken on 7th October by Hamas.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

pretty much all the news coming out of there now is misinformation of one form or another and what I find striking is that the media just parrot it.

It only seems "odd" because this is one of the first conflicts on this scale since Social Media took off; there's no more or less misinformation than there ever has been in war, and the media has always dutifully reported it in this way. There was just no large mainstream counter-narrative or alternative sources of information.

But I can guarantee that there's nothing substantially different about the media narratives around this war than around the Gulf wars, Vietnam, World Wars, Roman Empire...

[Cherie]

The devastated mum of a 22-year-old woman kidnapped by Hamas militants on October 7 has confirmed she has died after being given false hope.

Shani Louk, a tattoo artist from Germany, was attending the Supernova festival in southern Israel and was among the hostages taken to Gaza. A horrifying video shared widely online showed Shani's partially clothed body being carried through the streets on the back of a pick-up truck driven by Hamas gunmen, but her mum Ricarda said she had received a tip-off that her daughter was still alive. However the grief-stricken parent has now announced she's been told Shani is dead.

She told German broadcaster RTL/ntv: "Unfortunately, we received the news yesterday that my daughter is no longer alive." Her sister Adi also confirmed the death of Shani on a post on Instagram, writing: "It is with great sadness that we announce the death of my sister." The circumstances around her death remain unclear and it is not known where her body was found. There has been no official confirmation from the German Foreign Ministry.

A cousin of the woman said the family received an official notice from the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and ZAKA, a voluntary team of paramedics, saying that a bone from the base of a skull had been found - and matched Shani's DNA. According to The Jerusalem Post, doctors concluded she could not possibly be still alive as a person cannot live without the bone found.

After Shani was kidnapped, her mum shared a distressing video begging for help, saying: "This morning my daughter, Shani Nicole Louk, was kidnapped with a group of tourists in southern Israel by Palestinian Hamas. We were sent a video in which I could clearly see our daughter unconscious in the car with the Palestinians and them driving around the Gaza Strip. I ask you to send us any help or any news. Thank you very much."

She was probably dead when they paraded her around poor girl

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

:/

James O'Brien led with this story this morning, horrifying

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The devastated mum of a 22-year-old woman kidnapped by Hamas militants on October 7 has confirmed she has died after being given false hope.

Shani Louk, a tattoo artist from Germany, was attending the Supernova festival in southern Israel and was among the hostages taken to Gaza. A horrifying video shared widely online showed Shani's partially clothed body being carried through the streets on the back of a pick-up truck driven by Hamas gunmen, but her mum Ricarda said she had received a tip-off that her daughter was still alive. However the grief-stricken parent has now announced she's been told Shani is dead.

She told German broadcaster RTL/ntv: "Unfortunately, we received the news yesterday that my daughter is no longer alive." Her sister Adi also confirmed the death of Shani on a post on Instagram, writing: "It is with great sadness that we announce the death of my sister." The circumstances around her death remain unclear and it is not known where her body was found. There has been no official confirmation from the German Foreign Ministry.

A cousin of the woman said the family received an official notice from the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and ZAKA, a voluntary team of paramedics, saying that a bone from the base of a skull had been found - and matched Shani's DNA. According to The Jerusalem Post, doctors concluded she could not possibly be still alive as a person cannot live without the bone found.

After Shani was kidnapped, her mum shared a distressing video begging for help, saying: "This morning my daughter, Shani Nicole Louk, was kidnapped with a group of tourists in southern Israel by Palestinian Hamas. We were sent a video in which I could clearly see our daughter unconscious in the car with the Palestinians and them driving around the Gaza Strip. I ask you to send us any help or any news. Thank you very much."

She was probably dead when they paraded her around poor girl

Very Sad

Evil Hamas killed her.

[arista]

Yes Cherie
real tragic aged 22
Murdered by Evil Hamas.



[Kidnapped Shani Louk is dead,
her family announces, after 'bone from the base
of her skull' is found three weeks after she was
abducted by Hamas terrorists and paraded on
the back of a truck

Shani, 22, was kidnapped from Israel to Gaza
during the deadly October 7th Attack.]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ded-truck.html

[arista]

There is a Group of Iran backed (Pro - Hamas)
Anti-Jewish attacks going on in the UK.

This is why there was a Cobra Meeting
today

Ref: Politics Live BBC2HD

[arista]

Yesterday a Mass Public of Gaza
Broke down the Doors of the United Nations warehouse
to loot bags of rice and other food.

They have no choice.

[Cherie]

Maybe someone will explain this to me Hamas have the money, and the means to build underground tunnels and fire off rockets every day, but they can't build any infrastructure that would help the citizens of Gaza?

I heard somewhere that Palestine has money pumped into it, where is it all going...

[Ninastar]

I saw that video of Shani in the back of that car… truly horrific. I didn’t think she was alive but for her mother to be given false hope is just horrific. I can’t even imagine

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Maybe someone will explain this to me Hamas have the money, and the means to build underground tunnels and fire off rockets every day, but they can't build any infrastructure that would help the citizens of Gaza?

I heard somewhere that Palestine has money pumped into it, where is it all going...

USA gave them the money
years ago.
They diverted all funds,

[arista]

Someplace in the UK

[Ninastar]

The fact that they had to find out about her death by skull fragment is awful. Like what did they do to her?

I keep seeing comments all over the internet about where people are skeptical and don’t believe that Hamas would do these things… and it’s mind boggling to me because if anyone were to commit horrific acts, it would be Hamas/ISIS

Like do we really have to see videos of women being raped or babies being killed to believe it? This has been happening for years and years. There’s been plenty of horrific things posted online, why is it so hard to understand how awful Hamas are?

[Z]

Originally Posted by arista

Someplace in the UK

That's in the centre of Glasgow.

[Crimson Dynamo]

its all about hating jews

terrifying

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its all about hating jews

terrifying

When I lived in the UK like 8 years ago, I remember hearing from my Jewish friend that synagogue’s would often have bricks thrown through their windows. It was a frequent occurrence.

I remember thinking that it was absolutely horrific to be happening when we have come so far…

And now it just seems like nothing compared to what a lot of Jews are going through daily.

Absolutely mental

[arista]

Originally Posted by Z

That's in the centre of Glasgow.

Thanks Z

Thats so sad
if I was shopping in there
I do not want to face a Angry - Confused Crowd


I hope GMBHD itv early debate
Features these Glasgow Extreme Muslim protest.


M&S
is a shop - no way part of this war

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[According to The Times,
civil servants recommended
that the government exclude the Israeli PM
from a major AI summit due to take place
at Bletchley Park later this week over
Israel's invasion of Gaza and fears
that Benjamin Netanyahu's appearance
would overshadow the tech gathering.
The paper says that the foreign and science
and technology secretaries were "angered"
by the suggestion and rejected it.]

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[The Daily Telegraph also focuses on the rescue
of an Israeli hostage in Gaza.
The paper reports on the latest developments
in the Israel-Hamas war and says that
Western leaders have launched a
"diplomatic offensive" on Middle Eastern states
in an attempt to prevent the conflict
from spreading further.]

[arista]

[Nicky91]

i don't hate jews


i do hate Benjamin Netanyahu though, never liked him to be fair



yes poor kidnapped Shani now dead, more blood on Benny's hands




yes not surrender to evil, but then you have to accept getting more blood on your hands then, with more hostages dying, while you could've done way more to try and save them

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i don't hate jews


i do hate Benjamin Netanyahu though, never liked him to be fair



yes poor kidnapped Shani now dead, more blood on Benny's hands




yes not surrender to evil, but then you have to accept getting more blood on your hands then, with more hostages dying, while you could've done way more to try and save them

He is only in power while this war goes on.
After this, he will be removed in a Election.