[jones89]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

But a white person calling a black person aggressive whilst they're absolutely not being aggressive in any form is a textbook microaggression. That happened, this make believe all black cast didn't.

Ok soo… a black person calls another black person aggressive whilst they’re absolutely not being aggressive, still a textbook microaggression? Probably not eh?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by jones89

Ok soo… a black person calls another black person aggressive whilst they’re absolutely not being aggressive, still a textbook microaggression? Probably not eh?

This

And, honestly, this should end the thread. But it won't.

[Conzors]

Originally Posted by vesavius

This

And, honestly, this should end the thread. But it won't.

Why are you so uncomfortable discussing race and potential racial bias?

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by jones89

Ok soo… a black person calls another black person aggressive whilst they’re absolutely not being aggressive, still a textbook microaggression? Probably not eh?

But was that what happened? But hey, if you need to keep inventing hypothetical scenarios to deflect from a conversation that makes you uncomfortable you knock yourself out

[jones89]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

But was that what happened? But hey, if you need to keep inventing hypothetical scenarios to deflect from a conversation that makes you uncomfortable you knock yourself out

The answer was clearly no then

[OnTheRight]

Originally Posted by jones89

I’m curious.. if it was an all-black cast and someone was being called aggressive this really wouldn’t be an issue would it? The whites be evil

Only white people can be racist, didn't you know?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by OnTheRight

Only white people can be racist, didn't you know?

According to the redefintion of the term by those that absolutely do not gain power by redefining that term, that is true.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Conzors

I’ve seen a few comments saying it’s racial biased and stuff and seeing it on screen from the likes of Jenkin, Tom, Chanelle and Paul, who are probably from areas where white people outweigh black people, call Trish aggressive for being loud and feisty and strongly opinionated but then not calling Olivia aggressive for being basically the same but not black….

I don’t think they are ‘racist’ but personally I think it is subconscious racial biased and I can’t believe this stuff happens, it’s so unfair and I’m shocked that more people do not see this.

What are your thoughts?

I would agree entirely


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[OnTheRight]

Only two people have mentioned colour, Daryl and Trish.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by OnTheRight

Only two people have mentioned colour, Daryl and Trish.

Dylan … just Dylan


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[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Dylan … just Dylan


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Trish mentioned micro aggression tonight, and by now we all know what that buzzword means. Another seed planted by Trish, following on from the bully limbo dancing.

[GoldHeart]

race aside

The point is the double standards is there . And I'm glad Trish called out the garden gremlins hypocrisy .... especially about Chanelle.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

race aside

The point is the double standards is there . And I'm glad Trish called out the garden gremlins hypocrisy .... especially about Chanelle.

I like the combination of the two group names here... Garden Gremlins...

I can live with that.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Trish mentioned micro aggression tonight, and by now we all know what that buzzword means. Another seed planted by Trish, following on from the bully limbo dancing.

I have said before that the part of Trish that I don't like are her Guardianista level of performative barely educated leftist politics, despite being a 90s lefty myself, so I do agree that the use here was jarring.

But, it is hardly a fatal character flaw or one that changes my core view of her.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by OnTheRight

Only two people have mentioned colour, Daryl and Trish.

Forgot about Dylan or he don't count ?

[Northern Monkey]

The question is, is what racial?
All this seems to be coming from Trish herself. She seems to conflate being called ‘strong’ and being seen as ‘agressive’.

[OnTheRight]

Jordan put the aggressive, bully in her place.

[fitz2k2]

Originally Posted by OnTheRight

Jordan put the aggressive, bully in her place.

Who has trish bullied? Im all ears

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by fitz2k2

Who has trish bullied? Im all ears

It was nothing .. a 60 second interaction between Jordan and Trish ..


Let’s just say that they could have both handled it better


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[Zizu]

Hopefully just a coincidence that the downstairs crew have been all white from the get -go


Whilst the upstairs have been multicultural


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[Swan]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Must be just a coincidence that the downstairs crew have been all white from the get -go


Whilst the upstairs have been multicultural


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Do you think friendships should forced based on race?

That's also not true, as it was discussed in tonight's episode that Noky was hanging around a lot more the "downstairs" crew pretty much all the way through until this week. She's now spread her wings a bit around the house, which is great to see.

[Atake25]

Originally Posted by Conzors

I’ve seen a few comments saying it’s racial biased and stuff and seeing it on screen from the likes of Jenkin, Tom, Chanelle and Paul, who are probably from areas where white people outweigh black people, call Trish aggressive for being loud and feisty and strongly opinionated but then not calling Olivia aggressive for being basically the same but not black….

I don’t think they are ‘racist’ but personally I think it is subconscious racial biased and I can’t believe this stuff happens, it’s so unfair and I’m shocked that more people do not see this.

What are your thoughts?

No not racist at all just different personalities clashing

[Alf]

Paul and Olivia were definitely public enemy number 1 on this forum purely based on race.

So yes, it's racial.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Alf

Paul and Olivia were definitely public enemy number 1 on this forum purely based on race.

So yes, it's racial.

They have been castigated simply for their constant abhorrent behaviour and complete disrespect of their fellow housemates plus the thieving


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[Alf]

Originally Posted by Zizu

They have been castigated simply for their constant abhorrent behaviour and complete disrespect of their fellow housemates plus the thieving


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That's only because you believe that they should behave a different way because of their race.