[Alf]

Youtube video

[Alf]

Bump

[parmnion]

I will watch after bb, I'm intrigued.

Is it the 2009 rule?

[OnTheRight]

Good.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by OnTheRight

Good.

It's not good for some people, Adolf.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Alf

It's not good for some people, Adolf.

Who isn't it good for?

I will largely agree that it's silly/pointless, but it's hardly "bad".

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Bump

Sad you have to Bump your own thread.

Smoking will be Banned more and more.


You stink on your clothes.
Banning smoking is a Good Measure,

Leave some parks for you horrid
smokers to go in.

[Mystic Mock]

I think it should be left as a choice for people if they want to smoke Cigarettes.

However I do support them not being heavily promoted and supported by the mainstream media as it is toxic not just for the individual that's smoking it, but also anyone that's in close proximity to the smoker.

[Stu]

List of things we should give a **** about in a dying world:

1. Everything else
2. Cigarettes

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Stu

List of things we should give a **** about in a dying world:

1. Everything else
2. Cigarettes

Your problem is that you don’t give sh1t and that's why people in positions of elected power feel no fear in taking away our liberties.

Here you are basically cheering them on as they attempt to take another one away.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Alf

Your problem is that you don’t give sh1t and that's why people in positions of elected power feel no fear in taking away our liberties.

Here you are basically cheering them on as they attempt to take another one away.

Could make it that you can buy the right to buy ciggies, but in doing so you give up access to free healthcare? Or introduce like... A tobacco license. £3k a year and you get to smoke, it goes into a pot for smoking-related illnesses.

[OnTheRight]

Originally Posted by Alf

It's not good for some people, Adolf.

It's good for me and my health and I could not care a jot about others.

[Nicky91]

[The Slim Reaper]

Evertonians should not only be allowed to smoke, but city and Chelsea should be forced to pay for their cigarettes.

[Redway]

Switzerland apparently uses CBG (a cannabinoid like CBD but with a ‘stimulating overcast’; don’t know how else to explain it) to mellow out the tobacco content in cigarettes and that’s something I’ve always been in favour of. Lambert and Butler would be a lot more wholesome and healthy with some CBC, CBD or CBG (etc.) in it, maybe at a 60:40 ratio in favour of the tobacco. One (cannabis, in all its shades., psychoactive and non-/minimally psychoactive alike) helps treat/prevent cancer and the other might be a causative factor or just mess up your lungs in general. Whether it’s a lung condition from years of 20+ a day or carbon monoxide poisoning from getting too attached to the hookah. So in theory I prefer to optimise than cancel altogether. But even pure tobacco smokes shouldn’t be cancelled for these next generations. Smoking loads of cigarettes isn’t great but if you can find reason to justify it beyond addiction (that you wouldn’t really have a choice over besides getting help) and take something away from your daily pack of Benson and Hedges or Marlboro, you’ll just take the good with the bad and try not to make too many excuses for yourself about why you do it. And that’s ultimately your business. Increasing the smoking age from 16 to 18 (IMO) was infantilising enough (I feel like at 16 you should have certain choices, since you’re old enough to do a lot) but banning people born after a certain age from ever getting the chance to make the decision for themselves is just a step too far.

Like I said, going halves between tobacco and various extracts of hemp and selling that in 10s and 20s (mentholated/flavoured, just like vapes have come to be) seems like it might be a fairer compromise to me. Not too sure if all this “de-incentivising” tobacco to make it less appealing to kids (kiosk-shutters, plain packaging, even the removal of flavours that I’ve just mentioned) was the greatest use of time either. Vapes offer kids a full flurry of everything that came to be taken out of cigarettes over the past 11 years (10-packs that kids and broke people are more likely to be able to afford, flavours) as well anyway. They’re affordable for the puffs you get out of them and they’re mega fruity half the time now. Gen Zs for all their issues are more likely to stay with the vape now anyway. If they want to actually smoke tobacco at all, it’s weed for spliffs (not that tobacco’s really necessary for that). Teenagers of today only rarely smoke cigarettes by comparison to how it was 10+ years ago. Everyone and every generation like to moan about what “kids these days” are like but in terms of healthier life choices, this side of Gen Z does better than millennials and people above that did. Even with adults it’s way less common than it was. Social smoking at the pub in the beer garden and smoking lounge in the club is something a lot of people seem to do still but it’s not super common. More people than not definitely prefer to vape now in any case.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Evertonians should not only be allowed to smoke, but city and Chelsea should be forced to pay for their cigarettes.

This is a policy I could get behind

[Alf]

Never listen to the powers that be. They will always lie to you.

Meat is the greatest food substance to keep you alive and smoking doesn't cause the harm they tell you it does.

These are the same people that told you to wear a mask, stay at home and get the jab.

All full of sh!t

[Alf]

Smoking is manly. It's what real men do. Soy is for soyboys.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Who isn't it good for?

I will largely agree that it's silly/pointless, but it's hardly "bad".

People who want to smoke.

[LeatherTrumpet]

wont be long before i am researching and buying my Christmas and new year Cigars

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

Smoking is manly. It's what real men do. Soy is for soyboys.

Soy Sauce is for men with a fine pallet.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Redway

People who want to smoke.

Current children who are making the future decision that they'll want to smoke? 🤔

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Current children who are making the future decision that they'll want to smoke? ��

You don’t have to agree with me (I’m sure you won’t). Just saying my own.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

wont be long before i am researching and buying my Christmas and new year Cigars

no doubt you will be wearing your tweed jacket while you do the research

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

no doubt you will be wearing your tweed jacket while you do the research

and my red cords