[Red Moon]

According to today's Yorkshire Post a new report has been published that puts future of TV under the microscope.

It looks at what drives programme production and how programmes are judge to be a success. It states that some successful programmes like "fools and horses" would never get made or if they did they would only last one series because of poor rating. It also said that the day of the Documentary are almost at a end because of high production costs and low audience numbers.

It points out that BBC has only operated at it's best when it had competition and the same goes for ITV. These companies have also most stop competing in the area's of Drama and Comedy. While they did compete the quality of the programmes were better.

It is clear that popular soaps like Coronation Street, Emmerdale and Eastenders, along with reality TV shows like Big Brother, and X-factor will continue in the future as long as they make money. However, OFCOM has warned that money spent on British-made sitcoms, children's programming, current affairs, films and one-off dramas could fall over the coming years as the TV companies buy in cheaper programs from overseas.

So what I want to know is, "do we think the quality British-made TV doomed over the coming years?"

[Magic]

Yes, i think TV is not as good now.
I remember as a child the Childrens TV was much more creative, and you could tell a much higher budget was spent than these days.

All we seem to get on TV now is Health, House and other low budget rubbish.

Why? Its a bit like Chicken or the Egg in my view, did we stop watching Prime Channelse because of other attractions, or did Prime Channelse stop good programmes.

Sorry if that doesnt make much sense, my brain is in dumb mood.

[Tom]

Good quality TV is definitely doomed. Channel 4 do a lot of documentaries, The Fixer is a high quality drama, News at Ten is a high quality news programme. All but The Fixer cannot manage 3m+ on a regular basis, with The Fixer settling down in the lie 4m's.

The BBC have no issues with funding because their money is definite and constant. ITV have to rely on advertising and if mindless, trashy, low quality programming such as Britain's Got Talent is getting higher viewing figures than high quality programming, then they are going to stick with the lower quality to gain more advertising revenue.

With regards to kids TV and sitcoms, there is still a market. My Family returned last night and Benidorm was on head to head- both very successful sitcoms but I'm unsure of the figures. When written properly, they don't die on their arse like sitcoms such as Moving Wallpaper do. Kids TV is definitely a dying brand and there has been so much dumbing down lately its unreal. There was a time when people wouldn't mind watching kids TV until they were about 15 because it was multi-layered TV and the presenters weren't patronising. These days, its all done by voiceovers except for one on CBBC who is extremely patronising. The programming is now mainly cartoons and imports and broadcasters want to strip back on kids TV on main channels. There was a time when kids TV would be just as varied, if not more interesting than "grown up" TV but in the last 5 years its died a very quick death especially with the sudden demise of Saturday morning programmes.

[Harry!]

Is there such thing as good TV anymore?

[*mazedsalv**]

TV has gone wayy downhill.The 90s were great.

[MrGaryy]

Kids TV has gone bad thats for sure but there is some good British TV out there. Skins, Corrie, The Friday Night Project are all quality.

[Tom]

Originally posted by thebiggerbrother
Kids TV has gone bad thats for sure but there is some good British TV out there. Skins, Corrie, The Friday Night Project are all quality.

They are successful but they aren't of a high quality.

[Captain.Remy]

Next to the French TV I can say the British one is better, and by miles. I'm stunned to see how British people love all the 'talk shows', 'soaps' and 'reality tv shows' that most of the countries blame. British TV is more 'open minded' than the european ones it's obvious.
But there are still things I don't like but I realized it was about different cultures like the night programmes start way earlier than everywhere else or stuff like this.

[Harry!]

Why does OK usa not have the usa TV listings in? (I so want to find out what the scedule for programs are like over there)

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Posted
Why does OK usa not have the usa TV listings in? (I so want to find out what the scedule for programs are like over there)

If you are only getting the free one in Star magazine then that is because it isn't the full issue just snippets of it.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Tom_

They are successful but they aren't of a high quality.

I disagree my whole point was that they are quality.

[podge2007]

There is still some quality programmes being made like Skins, Shameless and Ashes to Ashes but reality TV and soaps still dominate. There are no good sitcoms being made like One Foot in the Grave, Birds of a Feather and Only Fools and Horses because they are deemed expensive risks by TV stations and Kids TV/Cartoons are not half as good as they were in the 80s and 90s. There is no good gameshows like Blockbusters, Going for Gold, Wipeout and The Crystal Maze, and everything nowadays seems to revolve around celebrity contestants like All Star Family Fortunes. TV has generally been dumbed down. Looking at satellite channels such as UKTV Gold and Challenge you realise how entertaining TV used to be.

[Tom]

Originally posted by thebiggerbrother

I disagree my whole point was that they are quality.

No. Being good and having high viewing figures does not equal quality especially The Friday Night Project. When finding out what is quality TV, you have to take into consideration:

- The format
- The production
- The writing/script
- The acting/presenting
- The overall mood
- The genre

Entertainment shows and soaps are not high quality programming.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Tom_

No. Being good and having high viewing figures does not equal quality especially The Friday Night Project. When finding out what is quality TV, you have to take into consideration:

- The format
- The production
- The writing/script
- The acting/presenting
- The overall mood
- The genre

Entertainment shows and soaps are not high quality programming.

Thats your opinion of quality and I see that the above mentioned show fit all those criterias.

[Tom]

Originally posted by thebiggerbrother

Thats your opinion of quality and I see that the above mentioned show fit all those criterias.

Its not my opinion, its the definition of quality TV.

Live entertainment shows and reality shows are immediately ruled out.