[arista]

Lucy Allan MP
now suspended from the Conservative Party

[Good King Glennceslas]

As far as I’m aware Kier Starmer hasn’t said anything about National Service apart from calling it a desperate moves for Sunak…

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

As far as I’m aware Kier Starmer hasn’t said anything about National Service apart from calling it a desperate moves for Sunak…

The stupid **** mockingly called it a "teenage dads army" forgetting in the process he would be tarnishing the memories of all the fallen teenagers who helped keep out the nazis.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The stupid **** mockingly called it a "teenage dads army" forgetting in the process he would be tarnishing the memories of all the fallen teenagers who helped keep out the nazis.

I don't think it's tarnishing the memory of the countless teenage boys killed in war, to point out that it's unfathomable that all throughout history, rich comfortable men have sent barely-trained children (not their own rich ones) into battle to die or come home maimed or traumatised.

As a society we are - or should be - past the point where our armies are stocked with anything but well-trained, paid, professional soldiers (and support) who have signed up of their own free will. Should we be very grateful to the people who had to go to war for us in the past? Absolutely we should, but it's NOT something to be celebrated, and not something we should ever be keen to repeat. Banal misty-eyed completely fake nostalgia for a time that never existed. It wasn't all stoicism and valiantly putting up a brave front, a lot of it was 18 year old kids, terrified out of their wits, desperate to just go home, and blown to pieces within a few days of putting their feet on the ground in Europe. Unimaginable horror. The idea is that those who came before us were somehow bigger, braver and better than the kids you see on the street today. The VERY SAD reality is that they were not. Kids have always just been kids.

[bots]

Labour have commited to setting up an immigration task force, which is pretty meaningless given there are already trained staff in that role. That's what ive found a few times with labour, they call things by a different name and then try and re-spin it

[Liam-]

Reform have no policies other than punishing immigrants, that’s the entire campaign, vote for us if you also don’t like immigrants, no plans, no ideas, just hatred

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Reform have no policies other than punishing immigrants, that’s the entire campaign, vote for us if you also don’t like immigrants, no plans, no ideas, just hatred

do you like illegal immigrants breaking into the country?


presumably, you lock your car and your doors at night?

(I wont ask if you could house one as I am sure you would, but you just don't have the space )

[user104658]

Lol. Britain gonna Britain I guess.

[joeysteele]

In 2010 the nett mmigration figures when Labour left power was 250,00 +

After 14 years of the Cons nett migration now is 680,000+

I can't see where Labour could make that worse.

However my view of immigration and although I do believe the boats need stopping..
However that's only around 25,000 coming in them.
An extremely tiny percentage as to the full nett immigration figures.

I however don't and never will see any people, immaterial of where they're from or even think of them as just numbers to be discarded.
They're Human beings with feelings, hopes and dreams like the rest of the human race.
I'd rather show some compassion than heartlessness or any measure of any likely prejudice.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Farage: We should declare national security emergency

Nigel Farage said of the illegal Channel crossings: “Frankly, I think this is very
dangerous.

“You only have to look at what’s happened in Sweden in cities like Malmo to
see that a large influx of young males coming from an entirely different
culture, and certainly coming from a culture in which women are not even
regarded as second-class citizens, has had frankly disastrous social effects.

“But since the events of Oct 7 and what has happened in Gaza, and increased
radicalisation in the Middle East, this is even more of a problem. You see,
these young men that come, and I’ve actually filmed this, people throwing
their iPhones into the sea, throwing their passports into the sea, doing
everything they can so we can’t track and identify them...

“I think this is a national security issue. Now if you think I’m being over the
top let’s think about our friend Donald Tusk... Very much an EU luvvie, now of
course the prime minister of Poland. He has talked about the wave of, and
I’m using his words not mine, aggressive young males that are coming into
Poland having crossed the Mediterranean and he has said that it’s a matter of
national security for Poland.

“What we ought to be doing here is declaring a national security emergency,
and this is an emergency.”

[Christmas Dynasnow]

We are moving into age of sectarian politics that excludes women, says Farage

Nigel Farage said there is a “small but worryingly large growing number of
predominantly young men in this country, adopting radical views - views that are not
just un-British but views that are frankly increasingly anti-British”.

“You might have noticed that Angela Rayner yesterday was campaigning in her
constituency begging, begging a group of Muslim leaders to please vote Labour. You’ll
have noticed not a single woman in the room.

“So we’re moving into an age in our inner cities and towns I’m worried to say of
sectarian politics, with women completely excluded.”

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

We are moving into age of sectarian politics that excludes women, says Farage

Nigel Farage said there is a “small but worryingly large growing number of
predominantly young men in this country, adopting radical views - views that are not
just un-British but views that are frankly increasingly anti-British”.

“You might have noticed that Angela Rayner yesterday was campaigning in her
constituency begging, begging a group of Muslim leaders to please vote Labour. You’ll
have noticed not a single woman in the room.

“So we’re moving into an age in our inner cities and towns I’m worried to say of
sectarian politics, with women completely excluded.”

Farage actually has a point here, but I think that there's two groups causing the issue with anti-women rhetoric.

1. Radical Religious sub-groups (primarily from Muslim backgrounds, but also some from other Religious backgrounds too.)

And 2. The Incel ideology growing over the last few years due to Andrew Tate and the like, encouraging young men to hate all women.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Farage warns about risk of sectarian politics

Asked what he meant by British values, Mr Farage replied: “If you see the
victory celebrations for the local councillors from Burnley to Bradford to
elsewhere, no women. This is a new form... The idea that I’m saying this is
all British Muslims is absolute nonsense.

“I think the most concerned group, the most worried group, about what’s
going on with this new form of sectarianism is British Muslims who are
working, paying their taxes, wanting their kids to do well. It’s them that are
perhaps going to be the worst affected by this if this current unpleasant trend
continues.

“Of course there are social conservatives, but perhaps not quite to the same
degree... When 23 per cent of 18-to-24-year-olds say they support the
concept of jihad, I put it to you that that’s not exactly a British value. It’s
obvious to everyone that since Oct 7 there has been increased radicalisation
in this country. I never thought I’d speak to some friends who’ve got a Jewish
girl at a British university...

“She’s getting real abuse to the point of ‘do I really want to be part of this?’
So I think there are some pretty disturbing trends. I’m very concerned about
sectarian politics. We saw it in Northern Ireland, we’re starting to see it here.”

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

When 23 per cent of 18-to-24-year-olds say they support the
concept of jihad, I put it to you that that’s not exactly a British value.

By any other name it absolutely is in line with (Farage-style) British values. I think perhaps here the problem is that Farage doesn't actually know what "Jihad" means and thinks it's necessarily synonymous with religious war or terrorism. Or at least, he pretends such.

The real irony is that if there was a good translation to secular struggle, Farage's own political activity is nothing sort of Jihad. Scottish Nationalists, Corbynites, Tommy Robinson, Jordan Petersson... all conceptually engaging in secular "Jihad".

[Christmas Dynasnow]

‘A slow motion D-Day in reverse’

“If 3,800 boats and 125,000 boats isn’t a sort of slow motion D-Day in reverse, I don’t
know what is,” Nigel Farage said.

“But if you don’t like the term, fine, but I predicted an invasion and I think we’ve seen
one.

“Sometimes in politics and national debate you’ve got to use words that make people
stop and think. All that I’ve ever tried to do is on Europe or this subject or debanking or
whatever it is, the thing I’ve been good at is to get people to debate things and to make
their own minds up.”

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

‘A slow motion D-Day in reverse’

“If 3,800 boats and 125,000 boats isn’t a sort of slow motion D-Day in reverse, I don’t
know what is,” Nigel Farage said.

“But if you don’t like the term, fine, but I predicted an invasion and I think we’ve seen
one.

“Sometimes in politics and national debate you’ve got to use words that make people
stop and think. All that I’ve ever tried to do is on Europe or this subject or debanking or
whatever it is, the thing I’ve been good at is to get people to debate things and to make
their own minds up.”

****ing hell it's borderline painful to imagine the sort of morons who fall for such blatant rhetoric. If you want to talk about disrespecting the young men who fought in WW2 look no further than this dumpster fire of a statement. Truly, truly offensive. People who SUPPOSEDLY "love Britain" will be slobbering all over it though. Slack-jawed yokels.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

****ing hell it's borderline painful to imagine the sort of morons who fall for such blatant rhetoric. If you want to talk about disrespecting the young men who fought in WW2 look no further than this dumpster fire of a statement. Truly, truly offensive. People who SUPPOSEDLY "love Britain" will be slobbering all over it though. Slack-jawed yokels.

Politicians / Politics = persuasive rhetoric


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[Christmas Dynasnow]

What happened to impartiality
@Geetagurumurthy
and
@bbcpress
?

BBC News presenter, Geeta, just accused me (Nigel Farage) of ‘customary inflammatory language’
when I was quoting Polish PM Donald Tusk at a press conference.

https://x.com/TiceRichard/status/1795404271644766232

BBC not even listening to what was being said - the left-wing bias is astonishing

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Now the BBC's Geeta Guru-Murthy apologises:

"When we came away from his live speech, I used language to describe it which didn't
meet the BBC's editorial standards on impartiality. I'd like to apologise to Mr Farage and
viewers for this."

-------------------

However, the original lie speaks volumes about where the BBC is really coming from....

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Now the BBC's Geeta Guru-Murthy apologises:

"When we came away from his live speech, I used language to describe it which didn't
meet the BBC's editorial standards on impartiality. I'd like to apologise to Mr Farage and
viewers for this."

-------------------

However, the original lie speaks volumes about where the BBC is really coming from....

Yes Good she said sorry,

It was shown on GBnewsHD

[Parmy]

It would be hilarious if it wasnt so serious...so that's paedophilia and the left they have bias towards...I'm going to start keeping a list.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It would be hilarious if it wasnt so serious...so that's paedophilia and the left they have bias towards...I'm going to start keeping a list.

That's because the BBC loves to control people, and there's nobody easier to control from an adult perspective than kids.

[bots]

we all know that people like Farage quote extremists to make a point. They think this gives them a free pass to say things, but it doesn't, because it is still them that are saying it

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

we all know that people like Farage quote extremists to make a point. They think this gives them a free pass to say things, but it doesn't, because it is still them that are saying it

he was quoting the former head of the EU and now PM of Poland Donald Tusk



jesus wept bots

[arista]