[arista]

[Zizu]

Can’t wait to see the opening lineup photo showing the first couple of thousand recruits .

There won’t be any young soccer thugs / gang members or immigrants ( illegal or first/second gen) - they will all find a way of avoiding national service !

It will be all the nice , law abiding home grown English lads risking their lives for everyone else


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[user104658]

What we do have though is a rapidly aging population and if we do ever need to introduce compulsory national service, it'll be as carers not soldiers. Armed with wet wipes not guns.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

What we do have though is a rapidly aging population and if we do ever need to introduce compulsory national service, it'll be as carers not soldiers. Armed with wet wipes not guns.

As of now we are still wiping the arses of the nappy wearing 13-25 year olds.(perhaps national service might wake them up to life)...its karma coming collecting when we, get to frail.

[user104658]

Anyway like I said the reality of it is unworkable. In terms of culture, in terms of infrastructure, in terms of Compliance ("they'll go to JAIL!" I have bad news folks, those are already fkn full!) and it simply won't happen.

You would maybe - MAYBE - get a small pilot programme going in a few specific areas in around 5 years, that would run for a few more years, then never be expanded.

Funnily enough though they have "more quietly" added in the "it won't necessarily be military..." part.

So if it is real, I think the actual intention is to use unpaid/very cheap young "national service" labour to fill out understaffed health services with carers, porters and support workers. IF it ever happens and you fast forward a couple of decades, that's what 90% will be doing. Conscripted care of the elderly. A whole different type of dystopia, but at least no ones getting shot.

[Zizu]

Maybe we should just worry about defending ourselves ONLY ??

Is that possible ??

Then we could concentrate on having an amazing air force … stationed the length and breadth of the island .. and ground defence systems around the perimeter of our island/s


I can dream ..


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Maybe we should just worry about defending ourselves ONLY ??

Is that possible ??

Then we could concentrate on having an amazing air force … stationed the length and breadth of the island .. and ground defence systems around the perimeter of our island/s


I can dream ..


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I mean even if not one bomb falls on the UK, if Europe gets nuked then the fallout means all of our crops die and we get riddled with cancer/starve so the air force won't be much use. Tee hee.

[user104658]

Sometimes I honestly wonder what people have been sniffing though. If Russia actually ever goes to war with NATO it's game over. Not "we need to get on a war footing" but we need to have as much fun as physically possible in the few years we have left before we all die (or worse). Prepping for a war between Russia and NATO. Stop kidding yourself!

[Ammi]

…just to add to this being about trying to think of solutions to pad out essential services that this government has destroyed with lack of funding…(…and rather than just put the funding back in…) …there is no one left to train young people because the services are so bare and minimum and barely getting through their own days, let alone what the training of inexperience would involve…the whole concept is without any logic whatsoever….

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…just to add to this being about trying to think of solutions to pad out essential services that this government has destroyed with lack of funding…(…and rather than just put the funding back in…) …there is no one left to train young people because the services are so bare and minimum and barely getting through their own days, let alone what the training of inexperience would involve…the whole concept is without any logic whatsoever….

Dead right.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Sometimes I honestly wonder what people have been sniffing though. If Russia actually ever goes to war with NATO it's game over. Not "we need to get on a war footing" but we need to have as much fun as physically possible in the few years we have left before we all die (or worse). Prepping for a war between Russia and NATO. Stop kidding yourself!

Oddly enough ..

Ukrainian strike on Russian nuclear radar system causes alarm in West
Analysts warn Kyiv should avoid striking nuclear infrastructure after it carries out another attack on Russian territory
James Kilner
26 May 2024 • 5:38pm


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Sometimes I honestly wonder what people have been sniffing though. If Russia actually ever goes to war with NATO it's game over. Not "we need to get on a war footing" but we need to have as much fun as physically possible in the few years we have left before we all die (or worse). Prepping for a war between Russia and NATO. Stop kidding yourself!

I just think that Russia would be insane to basically detonate themselves, if they were to go for NATO.

I mean I've seen crazy and illogical **** happen before, but that's just begging to be massacred.

I would seriously advise Russia not to attack NATO as they (Russia) would lose.

[Beso]

1st lesson.

How to iron clothes.

[Livia]

No matter how technological war becomes there will always be a need for infantry.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

No matter how technological war becomes there will always be a need for infantry.

A need for infantry and a need for conscription/national service are completely different things.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

A need for infantry and a need for conscription/national service are completely different things.

I get that.. But you've said if we go to war with Russia it's 'game over'. I don't agree. As part of NATO, we could be forced to fight for another member and it will be ground forces, slogging it out. National Service soldiers will have 3 months basic training and at the end of their service most will leave, but some will stay. And those who leave will remain on the reserves list. It sounds like good prep to me. WW2 was fought mostly with conscripts, a large number of whom would have been Infantry.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

I get that.. But you've said if we go to war with Russia it's 'game over'. I don't agree. As part of NATO, we could be forced to fight for another member and it will be ground forces, slogging it out. National Service soldiers will have 3 months basic training and at the end of their service most will leave, but some will stay. And those who leave will remain on the reserves list. It sounds like good prep to me. WW2 was fought mostly with conscripts, a large number of whom would have been Infantry.

I honestly believe that if Russia openly engages any NATO member in a way that would require that level of conflict, the correct course of action is to plan a few nice picnics before the world ends. It's not the 1940's, the world will not recover from global war on that sort of scale, so there's nothing to fight for. I don't think there's a scenario where Russia and NATO engage in conventional warfare on a level that would need conscripts, without an inevitability of nuclear escalation.

[Glenn.]

I like how parm is suddenly religious to try and get away with his homophobia too

Perhaps he should read the bible

How bad is drinking in the Bible?
The Bible forbids drunkenness.

God says, "Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit." (Ephesians 5:6) In fact, there are many verses in the Bible which speak out against drunkenness. (For a few examples, see Romans 13:13; Galatians 5:19-21; 1 Peter 4:3.)

You cannot serve both God and money” (Matt. 6:24). Because gambling can put a person into a position of being mastered by addiction and debts, this principle needs to be front and center for any Christian considering gambling. The Bible warns us against the compulsion to strike it rich

Maybe if you’re gonna play that game you should stick to ALL of the rules

[Glenn.]

It’s interesting. It’s always the closeted gays that are the most homophobic. I’d say this is a safe space for you parm but it isn’t anymore

[Beso]

I suggest you go pay off your rent, Glenn.

[Glenn.]

Don’t understand what you’re saying mate? Am I missing the punch line?

[Livia]

I just don't believe it would escalate to nuclear war. That Russia will nuke NATO and NATO will fire on Russia and China gets involved... and it's the end of the world. I believe that it would slog out like Ukraine but on a larger, deadlier scale and leading the charge will be the Poor Blood Infantry. Let's hope neither scenario is on the cards.