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Old 01-08-2024, 03:43 PM #11
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…but then, I guess that it’s much more easy to look that comfortable and eloquent person and to look more ‘presidential’ as a male in a male dominated world of American politics/when it comes to presidential candidates…I still don’t think that American politics will accept a female president, females are very much more seen as First Ladies…but we’ll see, this at least is a step but I feel it’s as far as the step will go…
We not only nominated, but actually elected a dementia patient. I think people way overestimate just how seriously we take choosing our politicians. Only the fringes seem to put so much weight on exactly which candidates get chosen. Some people will vote her just because she's a black woman and that's just as wrong as choosing someone because they are white, male.

If Trump is reelected, it'll be because of his politics and because he is a known variable. It's not because "Oh we need to pick the whitest, male-est candidate on stage". If Americans were so fixated on masculinity being in the role from the very beginning, we wouldn't have picked Biden the first go. He has made America look very weak on the national stage. I can't think of anyone who was like "But he had so much vitality before he was elected!" ...

Hillary would've won but she had scandals near the very end of her campaign which I think tanked her credibility enough to secure a Trump win. Nobody likes nepotism in politics and people eventually came to groan when they saw her on screen. This was well before she entered NY politics. She was not likable as FL. It's been repeatedly said she didn't enter politics to do lifelong service as much she coveted the Presidential role. For her, it was about being there "first" than being the right person because the job was (again: was) so precious...

Still, Kamala sleeping with politicians to climb isn't as key a factor to her downfall as I think can made out of it. Her success will hinge on whether can she fits the pedestal that's been built for her. If she can't, then the issues with nepotism become more endemic. I think it's much easier to accept than not "It's who you know" when it comes to politics and people sleeping with each other, even in a professional role, is also a fact of life Also, let's not forget Kamala didn't even get nominated for this role properly (by public vote), so the test for whether she is even the best possible candidate for role isn't even be tested.. it's whether it's good enough to beat Trump is what she is being tested for.

So if 50% (an example number, but we know it's high) of the populace hate Trump, then arguably the bar is already low. Are we really going to suggest the 50% who hate Trump won't and can't see a woman in that role? That makes no sense, since feverishness around new wave feminism is one reason he's so widely panned.

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