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…I picked one on the incidents out, which is the acid attack on a Muslim Woman in Middlesbrough…because I thought that it would be the quicker/Google one…and that one doesn’t appear to have truth in it as the police have already investigated…I won’t assume that the others don’t have truth but I won’t Google them all right at this moment…what it does show, though…is the wilful and deliberate lies to incite and to a point where these untruths could actually turn into truths…very despicable….
It doesn't even bear thinking about ...if this incites more violence . But sadly I think it will.

Despicable is exactly what it is .
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…ok, so I’m just picking out one from that tweet you have, Mock…a Muslim woman in Middlesbrough…/…the victim of an acid attack…?..

Statement regarding online reports of attacks in Middlesbrough.

We are aware of commentary online regarding alleged acid attacks in Middlesbrough today.
Cleveland Police has not, to date, received any formal complaint from any victim or anyone on their behalf.
We did receive limited information from a third party earlier this evening regarding a possible incident in central Middlesbrough,
The caller was unfortunately unable to provide exact details of the location, nature of the incident, registration number of any vehicle, or description of any occupants, nevertheless officers did attend the area - with nothing being found and no victim coming forward.
The force has not received notification from medical colleagues of any such incident either therefore our log has been closed, pending receipt of any new information.
If anyone believes they or someone they know has been subject to such an incident, we would urge them to contact Cleveland Police and to seek urgent medical attention.
Fair enough.

I'm glad that there doesn't seem to have been an Acid attack in Middlesbrough.
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….putting something/anything onto social media seems a bit like skimming a pebble on the pond and watching the ripples spread out …it only has to be said/posted and it takes traction and it becomes ‘truth’…but the worrying and toxic thing as well…when it’s become that ‘truth’…it can hold total and unshakeable belief for some …words have such power in the world of today…and any falsehood can equally hold that power…
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On Tuesday 11-year-old boy
set Fire to an Expensive Police Van.

He has now been arrested.

Does he have parents,
As I would say they are at Fault
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I would have driven into them
and Locked my car doors
Then I would have been able to Drive away
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Move down to the 2nd Video Please


https://x.com/Motabhai012/status/1819801766860615968


Liverpool
That Police Officer on his motorbike
it's good he could run away

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Poor Shoe Zone Store
they already have had to cut their amount
of stores to stay afloat.



[In Hull, a Shoezone was pictured
with smashed windows and a raging fire inside]
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The manchester one was yesterday, it happened after the black man through a lit flare at the protestors. He gave as good as he got, but people were yelling kill him, kill him as the fight ensued. It was all very unsavoury.
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Yesterday
[Youth throws a brick at lines of police
in Liverpool,
as riots in the city close to the
Southport stabbing turned violent]


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There were 4 protests/marches in Manchester yesterday....it was a nightmare waiting to happen. Coupled with people day drinking in the sunshine there was always going to be trouble.
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The manchester one was yesterday, it happened after the black man through a lit flare at the protestors. He gave as good as he got, but people were yelling kill him, kill him as the fight ensued. It was all very unsavoury.

Is that in the Proper Press?
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There were 4 protests/marches in Manchester yesterday....it was a nightmare waiting to happen. Coupled with people day drinking in the sunshine there was always going to be trouble.

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He must have Ł100 or more worth in his arms

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PM Starmer you are not yet on holiday
Give us YOUR update

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…the most violent and dangerous place to be atm is Twitter/X…but only when/if you want to believe every inciteful and hate filled thing that’s being posted on there…
Never thought I'd say this.
However in this present time now where blatant misinformation is becoming rife
So it's hard to work out what is truth and what isn't

Where reason is now totally out the window even when the information is proved to be wrong, that people like these dangerous idiotic criminal morons, still just go ahead with their own disruptive and civil unrest agenda.

Then I think it is time, that social media is looked into more.
Rooting out sites and organisations who permit support of these ugly and violent louts.
Where their agenda is pedalled by armchair support too.

The Olympics have our citizens working themselves ragged to represent and give a good account of the UK
Then you have these mindless idiots here with the Union Jacks and St George's flags showing the rotten side of ugly voices of hate from a minority in the UK.
Causing deliberate damage, instilling fear in communities and even looting too.

How is that an agenda to claim to be proud of.

On social media though that can reach the public at large, anyone advocating support for these repulsive extremists are not really any better than those causing the damage on the streets.
Something needs to be looked at.

I've been talking to neighbours who are appalled at these actions based on total lies originally circulated..
Although the older ones say that in the 70s and 8Os there was much worse than this from football hooligans causing violence and damage in cities.
That many places were no go areas when certain football matches were played.

The government could do more but to get more heavy handed could aggravate the situation more.
Leading politicians are never really on holiday, Cameron really wasn't just on holiday in 2011 when things were far worse.
They are kept fully informed and dealt with situations while away.
The Home secretary has this as her brief.
The Police who are upholders of the law, have been given full support to do all that's necessary.

IF, all powers forbid, things get much worse, then of course then it could be time to recall parliament and leading politicians to return to base.
It's interesting thus far, that the opposition Parties aren't yet calling for a return of parliament.
Only Priti Patel has indicated that I think.

So hopefully these mindless morons who are an insult to the whole of the rest of the UK.
Will get fed up of getting nowhere and nothing but condemnation for their criminal actions.
Will end up looking for other ugly things from their twisted minds to move on to.

Certainly though now in my opinion all public sites have a duty to ensure misinformation is NOT posted on their sites..
Especially ones that may help incite hate.
Plus too anyone posting on public sites who indicate support for this civil unrest, hate and violence should be seen as toxic as these thuggish idiots no matter from what sources these rioters represent or come from.

Things are getting more dangerous and really concerning that lies and misinformation can be presented as truth on social media.
Generally too from other sources.
It's near terrifying that people are left not knowing what to believe that they are being told.
That really needs sorting out, in LAW.

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Is that in the Proper Press?
I am the proper press, there was enough live feeds to get a clear picture from all angles..


Heres one, fight starts at 22.00 video man shouting kill him kill him.

https://youtu.be/HcM4HrbcQbI?si=L3QvvaQEnhXEj6At




A front row seat of the fight, fast forward to 9 minutes.
https://youtu.be/CM9E3zUAa1w?si=akvWYuf63Z15swuO

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I am the proper press, there was enough live feeds to get a clear picture from all angles..


Heres one, fight starts at 22.00 video man shouting kill him kill him.

https://youtu.be/HcM4HrbcQbI?si=L3QvvaQEnhXEj6At




A front row seat of the fight, fast forward to 9 minutes.
https://youtu.be/CM9E3zUAa1w?si=akvWYuf63Z15swuO

OK Thank You Parmy

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The ‘community cohesion’ concept explains confusing police tactics

Merseyside police were very keen to rule out the Southport attack as
‘terrorism-related’. This was despite subsequent remarks from the Home
Office that counter-terrorism police were still assisting the investigation. That
muddled explanation will fall on deaf ears. Whether this turns out to be an
act encompassed within the dry legalistic definition of terrorism, the dead are
still dead.

Why are the police in the firing line this weekend? Why have they not been
more forthcoming originally on details? Could a quicker reaction have
dampened the riots we have seen over the past few days?

One reason that the police strategy looks so baffling could be Merseyside’s
concern that nebulous ‘community cohesion’ must be protected at all costs.
Was it a flawed calculation? Did the police decide that releasing too many
details would inflame tensions in communities that had previous incidents
characterised by ethnicity and religion? If that’s the case, the recent mayhem
suggests that strategy is flawed.

The video of the police response to disorder at Manchester airport, the attack
on a senior Army officer, disorder in Leeds and Whitechapel all have distinct
features of ethnicity and religion. Concern and anger about the policing of
these events surely swelled the massive demonstration in London last
Saturday led by Tommy Robinson. Accusations of political policing of protest
where the intensity of enforcement is greater if the protestor is white, now a
meme in itself – ‘two-tier Keir’ have been viewed on social media well over
a million times.

We are always encouraged to seek the much safer narrative ground of
compassion and concern for victims and survivors – an entreaty made with
depressing regularity. But is this sufficient to quell increasing feelings of
public rage? Clearly not.

Sir Keir Starmer’s high profile meeting with chief constables and the sombre
press conference afterwards has not done enough to quell people’s fears. A
national strategy to disrupt far-right extremism is a necessary but insufficient
response to violence on the streets that encompasses other forms of
extremism, influenced by religion and hard-left sentiment. The threat of
Islamist extremist terrorism, for example, dwarfs extreme right capability.


This is a time of social ferment that makes radicalisation more likely. A strong
defence of the rule of law against all forms of extremist violence would have
been better and could have reduced the temperature more.

Whatever Axel Rudakubana’s trial reveals, and he is entitled to the
presumption of innocence until proven guilty, Southport was an act of
domestic extremism of almost unparalleled ferocity in the last ten years. The
sundered bodies of little children and those adults who we are told bravely
tried to defend them holds a unique grasp on the psyche. The horror has
been exploited online with powerful imagery conjured up by AI to paint
‘British’ children at the mercy of knife wielding Muslim maniacs.

There is no evidence the knifeman is a Muslim, but we ought to know all the
facts about the background of the alleged perpetrator as soon as possible.
Further dithering will be exploited by those who want to break community
cohesion as a conspiracy. But here we are again. A more agile, assertive,
even-handed and transparent approach to the truth by the authorities is the
only thing available to counter such propaganda. It is nowhere to be seen.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-we-need-transparency-from-the-police/
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