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[John Honey has been jailed for more than four
and a half years after admitting looting shops
in Hull including an O2 phone store
]

Does he think he would not be on Cameras?

Stupid Fool.


Loads from Lush Store






[Riot police guard the O2 store in
Hull town centre after it was
ransacked by thugs including John Honey]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Rotherham.html
A DANGEROUS stupid fool, and extremist or racist.
Great to see him get a more severe sentence.

I've not a scrap of sympathy for any single one who took part in the rioting.
Nor for the armchair extremists or racists who are hopefully more too going to see that words have consequences.

These extremists or racists are the ones who shouldn't be on any streets of the Country.
Great to see them get locked away.
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…on a positive vibe…I was watching a TV segment a few days ago with a lady called Denise Irvine, who is the manager of Citizen’s Advice Bureau in Sunderland…which was totally devastated and destroyed in the rioting there…as well as the devastation, she was talking about the community spirit that has so many people of Sunderland coming together in the clean up and also all of the Go Fund Me donations which are much needed as well…
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How fake claims over Southport suspect spread like wildfire with false name seen more than 420,000 times…

Posts sharing the false identity of the Southport stabbing suspect were viewed at least 420,000 times on social media, the Independent can reveal.

England was hit by a series of race riots in towns and cities after wrong information was shared online following the killing of three children at a Taylor Swift themed dance party on 29 July. The suspect was eventually named as Axel Rudakubana, born in Cardiff to Rwandan parents, after a judge ruled the 17 year-old’s identity could be revealed.

But before that, thousands of posts appeared on multiple social media platforms spreading a false name and background of the killer: Ali Al-Shakati, an asylum seeker of Muslim faith who was claimed to have come to the UK by boat last year.

The fake name would go on to have an astounding potential reach of 1.7 billion people; that figure made up of the number of followers and/or page likes where the keyword appeared.

Social media data analysed by Hootsuite, the social media performance engine, shows that the false information was shared in at least 4,776 posts across X (Twitter), Facebook, YouTube, Quora, and Reddit.

The posts mentioning the false name were engaged with at least 91,150 times (likes, shares, quotes), and videos with the name were watched over 330,000 times, according to Hootsuite.

There were more than 2,632 posts mentioning Ali Al-Shakati on the day of the stabbing alone. The false identity has been shared in posts by some 3,000 accounts across social media platforms since.

Many posts shared the false information with nearly identical wording, and a particular focus on the asylum seeker claim, which was entirely untrue and fermented anti-immigrant sentiment that boiled over into rioting.



This data shows how the misinformation spread like wildfire in a matter of hours, picked up by thousands of individual users and shared among communities.

The false suspect’s identity was closely linked to calls to violence on social media, with incendiary and misleading information suggesting “basically this was a terrorist attack. Despite what the BBC may say. Another Islamic scumbag”.

The first person to share the false name and background of the subject has been identified as a British woman on social media, who claims she received the information from someone in Southport.

An account associated with an obscure news website Channel3Now published the information in a widely-shared article (since taken down), which also falsely said that the suspect was known to MI6.

A number of high-profile accounts jumped on the bandwagon, including Laurence Fox, whose tweet with the false name remains up on his page, including misleading allusions to the suspect’s religion.

Rioters targeting Muslim and Asian communities

The nationwide riots were largely tied to false rumours that the suspect was Muslim, culminating in multiple instances of Islamophobia-linked violence such as attacks on mosques.

Chants of “Allah, Allah, who the ******* is Allah” were heard outside of Merseyside mosque on July 30, and an Asian taxi driver in Hull was racially abused and dragged out of his vehicle.

This has put Islamophobia squarely at the forefront of the national conversation.

The Hootsuite data shows that posts mentioning the keyword Muslim have ballooned since the stabbing, and reached their peak at the worst of the riots on Sunday, 4 August.

There were more than 202,000 posts mentioning the word Muslim in the period between the date of the stabbing and 8 August, 10 days later. This is a 242% increase when compared to the 59,430 posts in the previous 10 days.

Over August 4 and 5, at the peak of the riots’ violence, there were over 60,000 posts mentioning the word Muslim.

Social media engagement for these posts reached 11.6 million since July 29.

Immigration on the front line

Another factor that contributed to the riots was the false information around the suspect being a migrant, specifically an asylum seeker. In fact, the real suspect was born in Cardiff.

Far-right groups have largely rallied around this anti-immigration sentiment, with violent and targeted attacks at a Rotherham hotel where asylum seekers were trapped inside and “glad to be alive”.

The keywords immigrant, migration, migrant and asylum seeker have been mentioned in over 154,000 posts since the stabbing and subsequent riots began, according to Hootsuite’s data.

In particular, posts mentioning the term asylum seeker shot up by 303% compared to the previous 10-day period, with 47,184 posts across platforms.

These posts mentioning asylum seekers have seen a substantial boost in engagement of 423%, with over 2 million (2,670,239) likes, shares, comments, and more.

The topic of immigration has become increasingly heated, with Labour MP Michael Shanks warning that “we need a reset in some of that language we use as a Government, we need to stop [...] dehumanising people that come into this country and contribute to the economy.”

Other politicians have echoed the importance of addressing the tensions, with Boris Johnson accusing prime minister Keir Starmer of being “deaf to public concerns” over illegal immigration.

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Tonight 8PM BBC1HD

Panorama
The Riots That Shocked the Country.

28mins Docu.
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2 years 2 km the for throwing e cigarette at building!!

Woman told to expect jail in sentencing next month for tossing water from a water bottle at police.

52yr old woman remanded into custody for buying eggs and water, police said it was for rioters to use....shouldnt the shop worker be jailed for selling them, then?


Starmers head will roll for this.
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the vast majority of people support the jailing of rioters so i doubt that
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the vast majority of people support the jailing of rioters so i doubt that
Dead right

No way should these destructive mob rule morons be interacting with others and on the streets.
Get them locked away the lot of them.

I've not a scrap of sympathy for a single one of them.
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Dead right

No way should these destructive mob rule morons be interacting with others and on the streets.
Get them locked away the lot of them.

I've not a scrap of sympathy for a single one of them.
Absolutely agree
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Yes a few errors appearing
as some Violent gits are let out
some early reports......
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The BBC1 Docu 8PM last night
had few seconds of Tommy Robinson
Shouting in to his camera
"They have killed our children again."

Then went to the day after
with the peace gathering for the
murdered girls.

Then a few hours later a new crowd of angry folk appeared................
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Police had No Riot Gear
at that time.


And the first Police Van
set on Fire.


Police Protected the Mosque
Held their ground.

Then they showed the Fake Data
of the Muderer of the Children.
(Police could have stopped that by naming
the 17 year old, of course)


Then on Telegram
a New Group was set up
"Wake Up Southport"

Instantly over 14,000 public joined that group.


Then Riots went onto 23Cities
and Northern Ireland.



He (BBC Darrah MacIntyre) said in Liverpool a Library was set on fire

(That infact was a Community Centre / Library)


Then Labour Mayor Steve Rotheram
(Mayor of Liverpool)
Stated there is no More Money
guaranteed.

The Documentary stated Labour PM Starmer
never mentioned the real causes.

They also showed a Peaceful Crowd protesting in the road
with signs saying "No Apartments For Illegals"

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They also showed
Nigel Farage
asking if the Police speaking the truth?


Maybe he should have said
the Police could give us more information?
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In Pakistan

They arrested a Man for UK Riots

[LAHORE, Pakistan (AP) — Pakistani police have
arrested a man and charged him
with cyber terrorism for his alleged role
in spreading misinformation that
led to widespread rioting in the U.K.
earlier this month,
a senior police investigator said Wednesday.]

5 mins ago

Farhan Asif charged with Cyber Terrorism


Was Just on SkyNewsHD

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Nigel Farage
asking if the Police speaking the truth?


Maybe he should have said
the Police could give us more information?
A current MP questioning the integrity of the police is not a good look, just irresponsible. Having the question later is fine but you keep it to yourself while there's ongoing civil unrest .
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They arrested a Man for UK Riots

[LAHORE, Pakistan (AP) — Pakistani police have
arrested a man and charged him
with cyber terrorism for his alleged role
in spreading misinformation that
led to widespread rioting in the U.K.
earlier this month,
a senior police investigator said Wednesday.]

5 mins ago

Farhan Asif charged with Cyber Terrorism


Was Just on SkyNewsHD
What !??
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In Pakistan

They arrested a Man for UK Riots

[LAHORE, Pakistan (AP) — Pakistani police have
arrested a man and charged him
with cyber terrorism for his alleged role
in spreading misinformation that
led to widespread rioting in the U.K.
earlier this month,
a senior police investigator said Wednesday.]

5 mins ago

Farhan Asif charged with Cyber Terrorism


Was Just on SkyNewsHD
Urgh, don't bring him here. We don't need to literally import terrorists...
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he committed the offence in Pakistan, nothing to do with uk authorities. Whats basically happening is that people are being held accountable, world wide, for their crimes
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They arrested a Man for UK Riots

[LAHORE, Pakistan (AP) — Pakistani police have
arrested a man and charged him
with cyber terrorism for his alleged role
in spreading misinformation that
led to widespread rioting in the U.K.
earlier this month,
a senior police investigator said Wednesday.]

5 mins ago

Farhan Asif charged with Cyber Terrorism


Was Just on SkyNewsHD

Good.
Root out as many of the dangerous liars inciting violence as is possible.
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Urgh, don't bring him here. We don't need to literally import terrorists...
I agree

But what has he got to do with the UK riots!?? , wasn't it some random woman on FB who initially spread misinformation re: the Southport killer.
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But what has he got to do with the UK riots!?? , wasn't it some random woman on FB who initially spread misinformation re: the Southport killer.
People further spreading misinformation deliberately to create more unrest is a form of cyber-terrorism. There will be some indication that he knew the information was false but repeated it anyway to promote violence... probably seized his equipment and found messages to others, etc.
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People further spreading misinformation deliberately to create more unrest is a form of cyber-terrorism. There will be some indication that he knew the information was false but repeated it anyway to promote violence... probably seized his equipment and found messages to others, etc.
Ohhh I understand now

Yeah fueling to the fire is never good, so if he's
deliberately spread lies ...then I'm glad he's been caught.
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Sure, but never overestimate the brain donors we have in government.
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A bit ironic that this is about migrants flooding into towns, ruining them, using up all the resources, etc... only for the "protesters" to flood into towns, ruining them, using up all the resources (emergency services particularly), etc.

But more on topic, I feel like rioter/looter mentality needs to be studied like we study any other criminal/culty behavior. It would be real interesting to know what kind of people these actually are. How these things are arranged. In the "normal" world, I'd like to know if I'm having a potential conversation with anyone regarding anything political, who or what element I'm actually dealing with. I can tell when someone is into "cult think", but harder to tell the kind of non-serious person who burns down buildings. And are these even people we run into on a regular basis whether it is offline and online? I'd like to know for myself, if who I am talking to, is this kind of special.

I don't think of TiBB as an oddball place (that kind, anyway). It's part of the "normal" world, just containing the more eccentric bits of active society. But I would like to know if any of you are knife-wielding axe murders in your spare time. /humor

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A bit ironic that this is about migrants flooding into towns, ruining them, using up all the resources, etc... only for the "protesters" to flood into towns, ruining them, using up all the resources (emergency services particularly), etc.
Don't expect much rationality from rioters. You may as well ask how does destroying a high street help to stop the police from killing criminals.
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