[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it’s all terminology and labelling, isn’t it…that muddy’s it all and creates the divides…(…I know/being a female I may be a bit biased…)…but surely the majority of people or hopefully the majority of people are feminists because it’s a term and belief of equality in genders…and when it’s often applied as if it’s just a female descriptive, to me that feels as though it feeds into a divide that isn’t accurate…

I believe that men and women should get the same opportunities in life personally, because I do think that we should be treated equally.

I don't necessarily like the direction that some of the modern feminist movements on Social Media try to take the cause though.

And on the other foot I don't like Andrew Tate's Incel crowd either, that believe that a woman has to have sex with them on demand.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

but surely the majority of people or hopefully the majority of people are feminists because it’s a term and belief of equality in genders…

I think that there are a decent amount of feminists that do still believe that and it was more common to think that way in past (90's/ 00's) among feminists, but with the rise of 4th Wave feminism it's become a minority position I think.

RadFems have used social media and the internet in general to change the culture. 'Equality' is out, revenge and gender superiority is in. It's a shame... I grew up in an all-woman household (I had a gay mother, which in the 80s was a very different reality to what it is now) and have been surrounded by positive examples of feminity all my life on a personal level. I want nothing more than equality, but the radicalised change in the wider culture and the culture of the mainstream left is real.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I believe that men and women should get the same opportunities in life personally, because I do think that we should be treated equally.

I don't necessarily like the direction that some of the modern feminist movements on Social Media try to take the cause though.

And on the other foot I don't like Andrew Tate's Incel crowd either, that believe that a woman has to have sex with them on demand.

…absolutely and that’s surely the definition of a feminist, Mock…(…welcome to the world of feminism……)…it supports all genders because it supports equality…and of course, there is extreme ideology in all genders and I’m sure that’s very visible on social media as well as other areas…it’s not a media that I tend to spend time on because I imagine it can somethings be more difficult to avoid the more unhealthy parts and influences etc…

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I think that there are a decent amount of feminists that do still believe that and it was more common to think that way in past (90's/ 00's) among feminists, but with the rise of 4th Wave feminism it's become a minority position I think.

RadFems have used social media and the internet in general to change the culture. 'Equality' is out, revenge and gender superiority is in. It's a shame... I grew up in an all-woman household (I had a gay mother, which in the 80s was a very different reality to what it is now) and have been surrounded by positive examples of feminity all my life on a personal level. I want nothing more than equality, but the radicalised change in the wider culture and the culture of the mainstream left is real.

…oh, I know it’s real…absolutely…but I also believe that it’s not something we all live in our lives as much as media’s …mainstream and social, would have us believe…it’s often almost like a different world to see and absorb talking points and views etc online and those that I have in my offline time with what is a huge selection of people because school environment exposes to that variety, you know…the ‘toxicity’ if it were to be applied at all…for me, would be less applied to any gender and specific to not opening up paths of information more …the internet for my thoughts can be that blessing and curse thing…in that it both opens up and restricts also and can hold more narrow views/thoughts…

[Crimson Dynamo]

Is Khaled Homophobic?

is there a shred of evidence to suggest

no

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why on earth are we on 4 pages?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…oh, I know it’s real…absolutely…but I also believe that it’s not something we all live in our lives as much as media’s …mainstream and social, would have us believe…it’s often almost like a different world to see and absorb talking points and views etc online and those that I have in my offline time with what is a huge selection of people because school environment exposes to that variety, you know…the ‘toxicity’ if it were to be applied at all…for me, would be less applied to any gender and specific to not opening up paths of information more …the internet for my thoughts can be that blessing and curse thing…in that it both opens up and restricts also and can hold more narrow views/thoughts…

sadly, it's not just in the media, society in general is being radicalised.

I think that it's just hard to see often because it's simultaneously become quickly normalised.

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by BBXX

C'mon now, in the same way people shouldn't invalidate Ali's sexuality, people also shouldn't invalidate Khaled's.

sorry but it obvious.
His religion might be holding him back, but he defo aint straight.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

sadly, it's not just in the media, society in general is being radicalised.

I think that it's just hard to see often because it's simultaneously become quickly normalised.

…there is a ‘tribal’ aspect to it as well, which I think is encouraged and aggravated by the media…’divides’ create distractions, don’t they…and I think that’s a pun element as well/it’s a complex brew and labels are something that are/were created to ‘cancel’ communication/understanding and all that jazz imo…because rather than discuss, a label is just thrown and something is closed down and dismissed with the flick of a keyboard or whatever…’woke’ is another label that that is created to divide…

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…absolutely and that’s surely the definition of a feminist, Mock…(…welcome to the world of feminism……)…it supports all genders because it supports equality…and of course, there is extreme ideology in all genders and I’m sure that’s very visible on social media as well as other areas…it’s not a media that I tend to spend time on because I imagine it can somethings be more difficult to avoid the more unhealthy parts and influences etc…

Unfortunately the Media and the Internet are influencing things to such a point that some people might see my views on the topic (and anybody that agrees with my views) as Misogynistic.

Like for me I can't get onboard with Ali's version of Feminism because it's Misandry and unhinged, and Dean is even more unhinged than Ali because he is having major issues with mild levels of masculinity within his own gender.