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Old 25-11-2024, 04:23 PM #51
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Exclamation This is an advert for ‘assisted dying’ on the London Underground.



sorry, what?
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As silly as this sounds.


If you think your family dont want to see you suffer, you must doubt you loved them enough.

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She spoke on GMBHD itv
saying if the vote
does not go her way
she will go to Switzerland.

then come back to haunt them?

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…it’s a strange one, isn’t it…because it’s not only about choice, it’s about wealth, I would say…and who can afford assisted dying…if it’s going to be made choice, I wish it would be something available to all but I’m not thinking that it will be…
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…it’s a strange one, isn’t it…because it’s not only about choice, it’s about wealth, I would say…and who can afford assisted dying…if it’s going to be made choice, I wish it would be something available to all but I’m not thinking that it will be…

It looks like
it will go through Parliament today.
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Hmm, While conflicted still.
I couldn't support this.

I'd love to be wrong and that it could be set up with the absolute 100% safeguards in place.
However I don't believe the safeguards could be perfect.
One error on this and that would be one too many.

The don't even get DNR rightly set up.

I could even see Doctors being prosecuted by families claiming their loved one would never have voluntarily agreed to this.

I honestly would hate to be an MP voting on this today.
For most their conscience must be being tested cruelly.

If it's passed and I think it will be.
I fear the slippery slope will not be far behind once it's implemented.
I never ever thought I'd agree with Ann Widdecombe on virtually anything.
Her opposition to this is rigid when she was on TV weeks ago talking about it.
I agree with her 100%

Like her, I don't believe there could be the perfect safeguards to ensure no wrongdoings or no errors.

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Esther stated
it is only those who are Officially Terminally Ill
that can get this
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Esther stated
it is only those who are Officially Terminally Ill
that can get this
How do you determine the time left to live?
In EVERY case.

A relative of mine, not living in the UK admittedly was told they had 6 to 9 months to live.
They lived for 2 more years.
They saw a daughter have her first child.

I just don't think now the perfect safeguards can be put in place.
Certainly they're not, in my view, in this Kim Leadbeater bill.
Sorry but no way could I vote for this.
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With a Estimated 6 months left to live

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The best bet is to assist yourself when you can.
Mine is planned, however the timing is everything, this is where your doctor could come in handy.
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why she so desperate to change the law?
for attention?
changing this law will result in so many unjustified deaths
she should just shut up and just fork out the £50 for an easyjet flight to zuirich.
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Default Esther Rantzen has cancer & joined Dignitas/Labour Party Assited dying bill

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The best bet is to assist yourself when you can.
Mine is planned, however the timing is everything, this is where your doctor could come in handy.
I’m amazed by your mindset and strength
What’s your secret of having no fear ?
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The useless ' I 'paper cannot even report this right.
Utterly useless and misleading press.

It's not 15 years since the last vote on this.
It is not even 10 years since.

It was defeated at second reading in 2015 in fact.

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We hope to get the Vote in
Parliament, at around 2:30PM.

Today
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The useless ' I paper cannot even report this right.
Utterly useless and misleading press.

It's not 15 years since the last vote on this.
It is not even 10 years since.

It was defeated at second reading in 2015 in fact.

Sure a Maths problem
very common
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Assisted dying bill vote

is in a min.
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That's actually a smaller majority than I was expecting.
330/275.
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The Vote Won

Yes 330

No 275
Majority 55


Ref: SkyNewsHD Live

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Good news. It must be ensured it is not abused.
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I think I’m for it. We are able to put our pets out of misery when they become too old/too injured to live comfortably anymore.

It’s an act of love. No one wants to say goodbye. You wish that you could have forever together. But to help put someone/something out of pain and let them rest eternally… I think that’s somewhat beautiful
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Just gives the green light to mentally ill people who want to choose death over treatment for depression.

Also gives the go ahead to greedy relatives wanting to bump off their gran or grandad so they can get their inheritance early.

I do not agree with this bill.
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Just gives the green light to mentally ill people who want to choose death over treatment for depression.

Also gives the go ahead to greedy relatives wanting to bump off their gran or grandad so they can get their inheritance early.

I do not agree with this bill.

Rubbish


Terminally Ill Only

Not everyone is a Criminal
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