[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

What he said about right wing politicians I'm very sadly not sure that he's wrong in his description about SOME.

The ECHR was put in place by people and minds that had lived through AND seen the horrors that resulted from prejudice and scapegoating others of other cultures
Using power to eventually destroy and then move on to other they sawvas undesirables too
It was put in place with whatever problems it may cause, to ensure protection and respect of ALL human beings.
To hopefully help ensure never again could such terror and horror be inflicted worldwide again.

Now we have these modern upstarts who think they know much better than the likes of Churchill and other leaders of the time, so would make the ECHR irrelevant and leave it.
I think this guy is more correct to criticise that.and those who advocate leaving it.

I for one would NEVER trust any politicians or Parties that wanted to leave it.
It's there to protect and respect all human beings.
Even though it won't get everything right.
The reasons of wanting to leave and therefore not subscribing to wanting to protect and respect ALL human life, in my view can only come from more sinister and worrying thinking.
Which hopefully wouybe rejected.
I'd hope for that anyhow.

So this guy may actually have a more valid point.
Nazis should be mentioned more.

it must never EVER be forgotten the horrors the Nazis inflicted on the World, from hate and scapegoating of firstly the Jewish people in the worst horrific ways imaginable plus then moving on in addition to other groups of people they saw as undesirables too.
What they were, what they stood for, what they despicably did to other Human beings, should never be forgotten and the word nazi be the thing hated and reviled for ALL time.

That whole last paragraph were words drummed into me by one of my Grandfathers.
I've never forgotten them, never will and always will agree with him on it.
It's also why I'd never support anyone wanting to leave the ECHR
No matter his faults, it was put in place for a major reason.
By far better and more experienced minds then, than there is anywhere in the World in this present time as to minds and thinking.

I agree with your Grandfather's words 100%

And I do agree with you that Politicians that want to leave the ECHR have got to be questioned, because what alternative do they want put in place?

That is something that everyone needs to think about in the days to come.