[Livia]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Ironically, the trans-activist insistence on not differentiating will be part of what makes the stats difficult to get. A lot of trans-activists would PREFER that these crimes are recorded as male-on-female, rather than male-on-trans.

We were told we were being stupid, imagining trans women would attack women. We were told we were hysterical and that it would never happen. But it did happen. And there are stats.

Now we have to accept that there will be transwomen raped by heterosexuals without one iota of proof. So excuse me if I demand to see the workings of these claims.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

We were told we were being stupid, imagining trans women would attack women. We were told we were hysterical and that it would never happen. But it did happen. And there are stats.

Now we have to accept that there will be transwomen raped by heterosexuals without one iota of proof. So excuse me if I demand to see the workings of these claims.

I understand and it's fair enough, my opinion of what some men will do is just sadly so low that you can ask the question "will [insert literally anything here] be raped by men?" and my answer would be "Yeah, almost certainly."

(Again I agree this is why it's unsafe to let male-bodied individuals into women's spaces, for any reason, including allowing them to claim another gender identity).

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I understand and it's fair enough, my opinion of what some men will do is just sadly so low that you can ask the question "will [insert literally anything here] be raped by men?" and my answer would be "Yeah, almost certainly."

(Again I agree this is why it's unsafe to let male-bodied individuals into women's spaces, for any reason, including allowing them to claim another gender identity).

Yeah, it was @Mystic Mock who stated it as a fact. I'm going to drag him out to the car park later and give him a good shoeing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I man got off with any prison time this week for raping a Shetland Pony

true

Lucky he never posted about it on Facebook

phew!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

I man got off with any prison time this week for raping a Shetland Pony

true

Lucky he never posted about it on Facebook

phew!

You forgot to change the "I" to an "A" when you retyped that LT!

[bots]

Sorry, i think i'm missing something here. Many of the people will still have their junk attached that go into the mens loos, so i think the chances of them being raped must approximate to zero

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bots

Sorry, I think I'm missing something here. Many of the people will still have their junk attached that go into the mens loos, so i think the chances of them being raped must approximate to zero

Well. No. There are other forms of rape.

But non-penetrative sexual assault in these sorts of "opportunistic" circumstances (against both women and men) is far more common than rape.

However the biggest risk is other assault - either sexually motivated or otherwise.

[Glenn.]

Women are in more danger from cis men than they are the transgender community. I can say with almost 100% certainty the women on this forum have felt threatened by a male than they have any transgender person.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Women are in more danger from cis men than they are the transgender community.

Trans women have the same rate of sex crimes as cis men.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Women are in more danger from cis men than they are the transgender community. I can say with almost 100% certainty the women on this forum have felt threatened by a male than they have any transgender person.

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Trans women have the same rate of sex crimes as cis men.

Yep both correct, cis men are a bigger risk but ONLY because of numbers (there are a lot more cis men out there than trans women). Proportionately, risk remains the same across both groups. You can argue that trans women are not men... but you can't argue that they aren't predisposed to violence at the same rate as men. Statistically, they 100% are.

[Livia]

Women and transwomen managed to co-exist for years with minimum problems, if any. The real problem came with self identification and with transwomen being told they are women and are entitled in our spaces. I think loud and violent trans-activists have done real transwomen a great disservice by acting like entitled men.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Rape isn't always about attraction its about power. I have no doubt some transwomen will be assaulted in male spaces but that's still not a reason to make female spaces a free for all.

I agree with you, especially when it comes to Sports.

And I agree that not every rapist rapes based on sexual attraction but instead they want to have control over the victim.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Ironically, the trans-activist insistence on not differentiating will be part of what makes the stats difficult to get. A lot of trans-activists would PREFER that these crimes are recorded as male-on-female, rather than male-on-trans.

That would explain why the stat that I was trying to look for was so distorted this morning.

Because I honestly was looking for stats for male on Trans sex crimes, but things like male on female would show up instead.

Probably because that type of crime is far more common tbf, but it wasn't what I was looking for.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yeah, it was @Mystic Mock who stated it as a fact. I'm going to drag him out to the car park later and give him a good shoeing.

Pulp Fiction... Remove the fiction.

I hope that you're doing well today Livia.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Pulp Fiction... Remove the fiction.

I hope that you're doing well today Livia.

I'm good thanks Mock. Hope you are. Just going to have a go at Katie's game now you've shamed me LOL....

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm good thanks Mock. Hope you are. Just going to have a go at Katie's game now you've shamed me LOL....

I'm doing well thanks, I'm just watching Sky Sports News at the moment to look at what transfers are happening.

And I'm glad that you're taking part in Kate's game.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm doing well thanks, I'm just watching Sky Sports News at the moment to look at what transfers are happening.

And I'm glad that you're taking part in Kate's game.

PM me if you hear Messi is on his way to West Ham.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

PM me if you hear Messi is on his way to West Ham.

I will.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Women are in more danger from cis men than they are the transgender community. I can say with almost 100% certainty the women on this forum have felt threatened by a male than they have any transgender person.

What about children? What's the stats on that. Trans must be higher than cis.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Beso

What about children? What's the stats on that. Trans must be higher than cis.

I mean obviously it's not going to be higher, most kids probably haven't even encountered a trans person in real life beyond passing them in the street.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Women are in more danger from cis men than they are the transgender community. I can say with almost 100% certainty the women on this forum have felt threatened by a male than they have any transgender person.

Absolutely...but since the introduction of self ID no one knows who is trans and who is jumping on the trans bandwagon for their own nefarious reasons

As far as some people are concerned you could have one hundred women in a changing room who have to ignore their personal safety and step aside for 1 trans woman who may or may not have self id'd the previous day

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

What about children? What's the stats on that. Trans must be higher than cis.

Are you suggesting trans people are attacking children?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Are you suggesting trans people are attacking children?

Correct

don't you recall this guy, for example

Transgender butcher admits abducting and sexually abusing schoolgirl

Andrew Miller lured the young victim into his car while dressed as a woman,
before repeatedly sexually assaulting her over the next 27 hours at his home.
The judge described the crimes as "abhorrent" and "every parent's worst
nightmare".

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Are you suggesting trans people are attacking children?

I'm suggesting a higher percentage of the ones cosplaying as a woman will have sexually assaulted more children than white British men, if you add up how many of each group there are and how many asssaults have been commited by both sets. Guaranteee the cosplayers win...heck they might even run the Pakistani men close.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

I'm suggesting a higher percentage of the ones cosplaying as a woman will have sexually assaulted more children than white British men, if you add up how many of each group there are and how many asssaults have been commited by both sets. Guaranteee the cosplayers win...heck they might even run the Pakistani men close.

If you truly believe that then I’ll let you think that. Straight cis men commit more sexual violence against women and children than trans people do. By all means find the stats that back up your argument.