[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Kate!

ON TOP they get everything going, it's well publicised. They come here cos they know its a cushy number. Hypocritical is Yvette Cooper who welcomed them all with open arms yet recently praised the Sun for highlighting the disgraceful situation and the aforementioned milking the system.

Originally Posted by Kate!

But why would they? Your words hold no water. What would it achieve.

“Well publicised” usually just means the tabloids cherry-picking the most extreme examples to sell papers. Most people don’t risk their lives crossing continents because they think a damp hotel room and £7 a day is a “cushy number.”

And if you think citing Yvette Cooper somehow proves the whole system is luxury, you might want to look a bit deeper than headline soundbites. The reality is still the same: grim accommodation, poverty-level support, and endless limbo. No amount of spin changes that.

And people who audit do so for their target audience and judging by what gets posted on here, the niche is far right racists. I could think of a lot of reasons why someone who needed some likes would create a fake letter detailing an extensive list of treatments to appeal to a racist far right immigrant hater.

[Kate!]

They don't come thinking it's 7 quid a day etc. They come because they know they're gonna get far better than that fgs.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Kate!

They don't come thinking it's 7 quid a day etc. They come because they know they're gonna get far better than that fgs.

You’re literally just repeating the same lines over and over, like it somehow gets truer each time. It doesn’t. No matter how many times you insist people are living in luxury, the reality is still squalid hotels, poverty-level allowances, and years in limbo.

[Nicky91]

we use grocery deliveries over here


very handy, this online grocery shopping



one of whom are sponsoring a cycling team nowadays btw, Picnic

[Nicky91]

we also receive offers of 25% off from any imported produce from Germany, this online shopping app is also very popular over there

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Kate!

It didn't make any difference to me. I already know they get everything going and more on top.

Therefore you're admitting you're referring to myself.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

You realise how easy that would be easy to do right?

To be fair Glenn, a quick Google is all is takes to find out that all asylum seekers are entitled to HC2 Certificate from the NHS which does entitle them to the free treatments the shown letter has.

I doubt the legitimacy of it just being "found" on the floor and being an actual letter but there is no doubt that all asylum seekers - as long as they are being processed through the asylum system and low paid UK benefit claimants are entitled to the free NHS treatments.

I think we absolutely should help migrants and asylum seekers who come here escaping war and persecution and I do believe the NHS is part of the lure that brings them here - otherwise they would surely not risk further crossings once they have arrived in mainland Europe and are safe.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Honestly, you’ve swallowed every tabloid headline going. If you think most asylum seekers are living in 4-star hotels with gyms and concierge service, you need to look at actual reports rather than clickbait.

The Home Office’s own inspections have found damp, mould, bed bugs, overcrowding, and serious safeguarding failures. That’s not “nonsense”—it’s in government documents, and plenty of charities and journalists have documented it repeatedly.

Yes, some hotels are used as emergency accommodation, but they’re often run-down budget chains, not spas. And let’s not pretend the NHS rolls out red carpets—people in the asylum system face the same waiting times and barriers as everyone else.

You can call me out of touch all you like, but you’re the one parroting fantasy lists about “on-call dentists” and “licence-free TVs” while ignoring the evidence. If you care about rough sleepers—and I do too—maybe direct some of that outrage at the politicians who choose to underfund services for everyone, instead of blaming desperate people who had no say in where they were sent.

I'm actually a person who doesn't read or look at newspapers.or indeed watch the main news channels.

I get my info from people on the ground, gathering video evidence, people going to these hotels will across the nation.. people who interview the residents..watching them and seeing 1st hand accounts on the videos they upload has led me to my view point. I knew about, and highlighted on here months ago about them working...police did nothing then...they've only took interest after an MP did what these citizen journalists have been doing for years, to which I have been watching since early 2020.


Do you watch the main streem news channels, are you a BBC puppet? Pray tell where you get your info from...font say the government my tennna lady couldn't handle the influx of laughter induced urine.

[Kate!]

Yes Annie, but not at the expense of our own people. They are literally welcomed with open arms and taken straight to accommodation, and no Glenn it's not mouldy etc.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

To be fair Glenn, a quick Google is all is takes to find out that all asylum seekers are entitled to HC2 Certificate from the NHS which does entitle them to the free treatments the shown letter has.

I doubt the legitimacy of it just being "found" on the floor and being an actual letter but there is no doubt that all asylum seekers - as long as they are being processed through the asylum system and low paid UK benefit claimants are entitled to the free NHS treatments.

I think we absolutely should help migrants and asylum seekers who come here escaping war and persecution and I do believe the NHS is part of the lure that brings them here - otherwise they would surely not risk further crossings once they have arrived in mainland Europe and are safe.

The chances of it being found by someone who relies on hateful clickbait is slim though. If the information is available online which I didn’t say it wasn’t, then the chances of it being fake are even higher.

[Kate!]

Let's digress a little and talk about the lifeboats for a minute. These foolhardy greedy illegal migrants have to be rescued on a daily basis by the RNLI who therefore prioritise them over others in distress.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

I'm actually a person who doesn't read or look at newspapers.or indeed watch the main news channels.

I get my info from people on the ground, gathering video evidence, people going to these hotels will across the nation.. people who interview the residents..watching them and seeing 1st hand accounts on the videos they upload has led me to my view point. I knew about, and highlighted on here months ago about them working...police did nothing then...they've only took interest after an MP did what these citizen journalists have been doing for years, to which I have been watching since early 2020.


Do you watch the main streem news channels, are you a BBC puppet? Pray tell where you get your info from...font say the government my tennna lady couldn't handle the influx of laughter induced urine.

It’s honestly hilarious how you assume anyone who doesn’t share your views must be some BBC puppet. No, I don’t get my information from government press releases—I look at independent reports from charities, legal groups, the UNHCR, and yes, reputable journalism that actually checks facts instead of cobbling together shaky phone videos to fit a narrative.

If your entire understanding of a national issue comes from a handful of self-styled “citizen journalists” filming hotel car parks, maybe consider that you’re not getting the whole picture—just the bits that confirm what you already want to believe.

[Kate!]

Home Office figures cited by the Financial Times in August last year showed that the annual asylum cost reached £3.96 billion in the year up to 2023—double that of the previous year and six times higher than 2018. Yet, despite that astronomical cost, we continue to increase handouts to France to stop the boats.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Let's digress a little and talk about the lifeboats for a minute. These foolhardy greedy illegal migrants have to be rescued on a daily basis by the RNLI who therefore prioritise them over others in distress.

Let’s be clear: the RNLI doesn’t “prioritise” anyone over others in distress. They respond to whoever is at risk of drowning, because that’s literally their job—saving lives at sea, no matter who it is.

Calling people “greedy” for risking death in a dinghy shows exactly how little empathy you have for any human being outside your own bubble. You don’t have to like it, but pretending the RNLI is somehow picking favourites is just petty ignorance.

[Kate!]

I have more empathy in my little finger than you have ever had in your entire life for anyone

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I have more empathy in my little finger than you have ever had in your entire life for anyone

This isn’t about ME now stick to your OWN topic

[bots]

its all too easy to omit the word illegal when talking about immigrants. Illegal immigrants shouldn't be entitled to anything. Stick them in tents and ship them back at the first opportunity.

They have immigration processing centres at all the refugee hotspots around the world. We have embassies or consulates in every country around the world. All offer a legal method of entering the UK and those immigrants should be entitled to life saving healthcare and accomodation. Those that don't enter legally shouldnt be given anything, they chose to come here illegally.

Even those crossing from france had the whole of europe to apply legally to come here. They are under no threat in France, Germany etc etc

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by bots

its all too easy to omit the word illegal when talking about immigrants. Illegal immigrants shouldn't be entitled to anything. Stick them in tents and ship them back at the first opportunity.

They have immigration processing centres at all the refugee hotspots around the world. We have embassies or consulates in every country around the world. All offer a legal method of entering the UK and those immigrants should be entitled to life saving healthcare and accomodation. Those that don't enter legally shouldnt be given anything, they chose to come here illegally.

Even those crossing from france had the whole of europe to apply legally to come here. They are under no threat in France, Germany etc etc

Yass! Illegal immigrants it is.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Former RNLI crew member David Wimble said "Some of the crews have voiced privately that they're a bit disenchanted with the fact that they are being used, to quote you, as a taxi service without any financial reward from the government.

"If you take into account the fact that the RNLI is wholly funded by volunteer contributions, some people have even said they leave legacies for them in their wills."

Wimbles added: "Somebody that I know personally, who was planning on leaving them a large amount of money, stated that they wouldn't do it, all the time they were acting as a taxi service."

At its worst, Wimbles stated that the RNLI were being forced to intervene "at least four times a day", and that the operation is "a very expensive business".

He explained: "Some people might give them more money, but I would say the majority of people don't think that it's being used in the way that William Hillary set it up for, which was purely to save lives at sea.

https://www.gbnews.com/news/rnli-lif...rvice-migrants

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The chances of it being found by someone who relies on hateful clickbait is slim though. If the information is available online which I didn’t say it wasn’t, then the chances of it being fake are even higher.

Not quite sure what you're saying here.
I said I doubt the legitimacy of the letter but what people are entitled to doesn't change you did say

"I could think of a lot of reasons why someone who needed some likes would create a fake letter detailing an extensive list of treatments to appeal to a racist far right immigrant hater."

The extensive list is just what all people who qualify for a HC2 certificate, which provides full help with NHS health costs and is available to individuals with low income or no income, regardless of their immigration status. This includes asylum seekers and those with no recourse to public funds.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Not quite sure what you're saying here.
I said I doubt the legitimacy of the letter but what people are entitled to doesn't change you did say

"I could think of a lot of reasons why someone who needed some likes would create a fake letter detailing an extensive list of treatments to appeal to a racist far right immigrant hater."

The extensive list is just what all people who qualify for a HC2 certificate, which provides full help with NHS health costs and is available to individuals with low income or no income, regardless of their immigration status. This includes asylum seekers and those with no recourse to public funds.

I was agreeing with you.

I don’t believe the letter is real though. Seems very convenient

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I was agreeing with you.

I don’t believe the letter is real though. Seems very convenient

Ah right - I thought you were disagreeing

Yeah, too convenient to just be dropped and found at the right time by an auditor and probably designed to enflame people who don't know what people, all people, are entitled to on low funds.

[Kate!]

I'm not wrong. It's very cushy.

What's coded? Are you saying I'm openly being racist using code words. Deny it.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I'm not wrong. It's very cushy.

What's coded? Are you saying I'm openly being racist using code words. Deny it.

But you’re wrong. They don’t have a cushy life.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

But you’re wrong. They don’t have a cushy life.

They clearly do.