[bots]

No-one in their late 70's should be leading a country, i don't know how many times i've said it now

[arista]

Originally Posted by bots

No-one in their late 70's should be leading a country, i don't know how many times i've said it now

Sure but many say
if he splits the Labour Party?


Reform UK could take power?

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure but many say
if he splits the Labour Party?


Reform UK could take power?

i think many are misjudging modern politics. The labour vote will all but disappear at the next election. They have been given a chance after the tories and completely blew it. If anything, this new party provides an alternative choice to voting for reform. It's really reform that should be concerned

[Beso]

You party a step to far?

[arista]

Reports
Corbyn now has over 400,000 members


Meanwhile
[Membership of the Labour Party dipped below
400,000 for the first time since 2015,
according to recently published documents.]


Sign Of The Times

[arista]

A good possible New Name
could be The Real Labour Party



Perfect for Slim.

[arista]

[Zizu]

https://x.com/antspeaks/status/1949363827935523214?s=46


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[Maru]

Originally Posted by Zizu

https://x.com/antspeaks/status/1949363827935523214?s=46


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Oh, interesting. I didn't know about that...

[arista]

Hour Debate on Why the
Young Like
Corbyn.


Ben Kentish LBC Live

[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

https://x.com/antspeaks/status/1949363827935523214?s=46

Many years ago.

Today he would not back them
he has collected more votes than PM Starmer

[Livia]

Both Corbyn and MacDonald were rabid supporters of terrorists. John MacDonald had, probably still has, a memorial in his office to the hunger strikers while the IRA was blowing up civilians in Northern Ireland and on the mainland. Corbyn has supported Hezbollah and Hamas for years. He's been a raving anti-Semite for years. People don't forget. Some make excuses and issue denials, but people don't forget.

[arista]

Yes, they are saying its more young voters now backing Corbyn.

[arista]

Live Debate
On this New party

On LBC Live this hour

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

Live Debate
On this New party

On LBC Live this hour

Sixty minutes of hysterical, derisive laughter.

[arista]

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

Both Corbyn and MacDonald were rabid supporters of terrorists. John MacDonald had, probably still has, a memorial in his office to the hunger strikers while the IRA was blowing up civilians in Northern Ireland and on the mainland. Corbyn has supported Hezbollah and Hamas for years. He's been a raving anti-Semite for years. People don't forget. Some make excuses and issue denials, but people don't forget.

Give one example of Jeremy being a normal anti-Semite, never mind a raging one. Just one example.

That game doesn't work anymore, now that the true horrors of the Israeli regime have been opened up to the world.

[arista]

how nice


Slim on the Jeremy Corbyn thread
amazing poll numbers
He is above PM Starmer

[joeysteele]

This could possibly prove very interesting.
This Party could be seen by disenchanted voters and even in part those who don't vote too, as the NEW Party to really shake things up.

If he also is to be proposing nationalisation of gas/ electric and water.
That remains a very popular policy with voters.
Not just those on the left either.

He hasn't the Brexit issue round his neck now either like in 2019.
Plus although most of the media will try the old antisemitism campaign again probably that they did between 2017 and 2019.
It likely won't wash with voters now.
The fully independent investigation into that by the Equalities commission.
Stated that the leader and leadership were NOT antisemetic.
The conclusion was they should have dealt with the pockets of anti-semitism in the Party better, however Corbyn now has that argument against the attacks that will still inevitably come, so it won't likely stick now.

This could be another crazy but very influential development as to recent politics.
Disenchanted and disillusioned past or usual Labour supporters are more likely to be attracted to this Party.
I am heading possibly to looking at it myself too.
Green supporters could see a lot of merit in it too.

Plus the softer support for Reform, only because it's not one of the 3 more established Parties, however softer support because those people just looking for a ' new political home' who don't hold deep prejudice against some of other countries or cultures.
Well, they too may see more merit in Corbyn's set up than in Farage's and Reform's more sternly prejudicial set up.

[bots]

i really can't see a failed politician in his 70's sparking the imagination of the new generation of voters. The rest of the population know exactly what Corbyn stands for and rejected him in 2019

I can't stand Farage, but i think given the poor performance of the current government, he is pretty much nailed on. He will also be leading the party with the most cash

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bots

i really can't see a failed politician in his 70's sparking the imagination of the new generation of voters. The rest of the population know exactly what Corbyn stands for and rejected him in 2019

I can't stand Farage, but i think given the poor performance of the current government, he is pretty much nailed on. He will also be leading the party with the most cash

That's all valid points.
However Farage is in his 60s now so no youngster.

Not that age should be a main factor.
It should be one of the factors but not any major one.
I know people in their 70s who are far more energetic and strong in thinking than others much younger.
What is surprising me more recently though, is the number of young people and I'm talking of people under 20.
Who really see something of more they like as to Jeremy Corbyn.

2019 was a horrific election for him and Labour.
However Brexit and the media campaign of anti-semitism were a strong factor in that election.
Those 2 things have been pretty much eradicated almost.
Except that it appears those polled favour much closer ties to Europe again.
Which is also extremely popular with younger voters and NEW voters.

Going 2 years earlier however in 2017, Corbyn's leadership of the Party surprised the media and even myself.
When he very nearly pulled off a result that could have seen him PM.
As the largest Party.
The LibDems under Tim Farron then, with the SNP and Plaid Cymru would have supported Corbyn's Labour in 2017.

IF he also was to embrace PR too, then I think a lot of bets could be off.

4 years down the line, who honestly really knows what will be.
Farage and Reform could possibly be ending up seen more as also rans.
Especially if the Conservatives, (if they did), get a far more credible leader who could pull even a few percentage points of their previous voters back from Reform.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bots

i really can't see a failed politician in his 70's sparking the imagination of the new generation of voters. The rest of the population know exactly what Corbyn stands for and rejected him in 2019

I can't stand Farage, but i think given the poor performance of the current government, he is pretty much nailed on. He will also be leading the party with the most cash

What do you class as failed? He lost 2 elections, both of which he wasn't expected to win, and in 2017, for example, he made a close election out of one, when it shouldn't have been. Since Blairs first election win, no labour leader has received more votes (often by millions) than Corbyn. Labour is losing more and more voters.

I agree that a politician in his 70's shouldn't be a leader of a party, but when every younger politician is spouting exactly the same message, then it needs someone to step up.

Churchill lost elctions, but I guarantee you wouldn't cvall him a failed politician, and if you had any interest in knowing the truth about labour under Corbyn, you would know that he had the whole right of the party working against him. Boris awarded knighthoods for lab politicians who helped him by working against Corbyn.

Everything I've written here is factual, backed up with evidence.

[bots]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

What do you class as failed? He lost 2 elections, both of which he wasn't expected to win, and in 2017, for example, he made a close election out of one, when it shouldn't have been. Since Blairs first election win, no labour leader has received more votes (often by millions) than Corbyn. Labour is losing more and more voters.

I agree that a politician in his 70's shouldn't be a leader of a party, but when every younger politician is spouting exactly the same message, then it needs someone to step up.

Churchill lost elctions, but I guarantee you wouldn't cvall him a failed politician, and if you had any interest in knowing the truth about labour under Corbyn, you would know that he had the whole right of the party working against him. Boris awarded knighthoods for lab politicians who helped him by working against Corbyn.

Everything I've written here is factual, backed up with evidence.

I get what you are saying and your reasoning and quite honestly the way things currently are, i don't think anything is a certainty. I'm going by hunches and my hunch is that Farage has the momentum (lol) and the cash backing to see him over the line. He only needs 1 or 2 topics that strike a chord with the GBP and he will win. Corbyn will produce a 10 volume manifesto that won't resonate with anyone but a few enthusiasts

[Beso]

The age thing...


Simpleton students indoctrined into believing a load of mumbo jumbo from their crusty lecturers.

[Cherie]

I'm here to see what he has to say, maybe he wont be leader?