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and elsewhere more trouble for Russia, coming from their once allies Belarus, whom also btw freed 31 more Ukrainian prisoners, they were granted pardon by president Lukashenko


Lukashenko is doing this, in hopes sanctions from the west will be lifted against his Belarus, but tbh i don't think this either is going down well for Putin and his few remaining loyalists in the government in Moscow
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good on Luka anyway for seeing the light, better late than never, although this is more an ego move than anything else, basically a ''we don't owe russia anything, time we start thinking about ourselves'' sort of backstabber move
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Now, Trump is telling PM Starmer,
He must agree with his new deal with Russia-Ukraine

Or President Trump will halt intelligence sharing
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It's a bad 'deal' though isn't it. More like a surrender.

I cannot believe how bad it is. Even I think it's terrible and should not be accepted and I hate war!
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i think europe needs to get it's act together and go it alone without the usa. We cannot rely on the usa going forward, so it's time to step up and take care of ourselves.
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His faithful service to The Lord in appointing conservatives to the Supreme Court, struck down the Ungodly Roe Vs Wade to save countless unborn children from being murdered

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It's a bad 'deal' though isn't it. More like a surrender.

I cannot believe how bad it is. Even I think it's terrible and should not be accepted and I hate war!
how is it like surrender?


as if Russia are the winning side here, i mean Lavrov is no longer on Putin's side, even Belarus are lowkey abandoning the ship



and as if Ukraine are innocents in this conflict, they too murdered russian civilians, many hundreds of them 600+
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how is it like surrender?


as if Russia are the winning side here, i mean Lavrov is no longer on Putin's side, even Belarus are lowkey abandoning the ship



and as if Ukraine are innocents in this conflict, they too murdered russian civilians, many hundreds of them 600+
Ukraine is being told to give away land not yet seized by Russia and to give up most of their weapons and never join NATA. That's not a good 'deal' to me. What about the hundreds of thousands of Ukrianians who've died in battle. For nothing if they accept the 'deal' which is all for Russia.
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Blame that third rate failed comedian who won't wear suit and tie to the Whitehouse

He should have surrendered to the true ruler of Ukraine, Vladimir Putin, as Ukraine is just a Russian province. It's claim to independence is no more valid than Arista's kingship of Jupiter, which I have proclaimed. Russia or Putin did not grant them independence, which only he had the right to do, not any third party busybody.

If Zelensky had taken up the offer of the US to go into exile and allowed the Ukranians (Sorry Russians) to surrender a lot of these deaths could have been avoided.

Zelensky is a war criminal, because his oversized ego got in the way of peace.

All Putin was doing with his military action was finishing, "unfinished" business of World War 2 and getting rid of the Nazis. Remember how Canada went to honour a Ukrainian soldier, only to find he was a Nazi concentration camp guard.
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Ukraine is being told to give away land not yet seized by Russia and to give up most of their weapons and never join NATA. That's not a good 'deal' to me. What about the hundreds of thousands of Ukrianians who've died in battle. For nothing if they accept the 'deal' which is all for Russia.
oh well, i can see Trump also working towards better USA-Russia relations, Trump is so great at people's skills with other strong leaders like himself, we saw that already with Kim Jong-Un and Benjamin Netanyahu
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i think europe needs to get it's act together and go it alone without the usa. We cannot rely on the usa going forward, so it's time to step up and take care of ourselves.

Yes, that could start this next week
after Trump's Thursday Deadline.
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who cares if it seems like 'surrender'


peace is always good for both sides honestly as it prevents further bloodshed




Trump just sympathizes for Putin's Russia, how he recognizes that whole anti-russia witch hunt from the west, from the own witch hunts from the left against himself
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who cares if it seems like 'surrender'


peace is always good for both sides honestly as it prevents further bloodshed




Trump just sympathizes for Putin's Russia, how he recognizes that whole anti-russia witch hunt from the west, from the own witch hunts from the left against himself
it wont be peace though, its just a land grab by russia
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it wont be peace though, its just a land grab by russia

You are so right
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it wont be peace though, its just a land grab by russia
a small section of land though, and Ukraine will no longer have to do anything since USA is sending troops to guard that border then another part of the peace deal

its either that, or possibly millions more to die if this conflict goes on any longer?


choose between the lesser of two worse options
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irony how Putin is more agreeable to this peace deal than Zelensky


when some people thought of Putin as someone who doesn't want peace




and as if Russia comes out of this conflict as the winners, because that isn't the case, once this conflict is over, there'll be quite an internal mess, especially from civilians in villages close to the ukrainian border, who lost relatives, and relatives of people who got killed in those villages by ukrainian drone attacks, or those who lost people who had to go to the frontline to fight for russia in ukraine
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Trumps New Plan
screws Ukraine.

PM Starmer has until Thursday
to say if he agree's with this dead deal


It gives President Trump,
a chance to save Massive Cash on saving Ukraine
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it wont be peace though, its just a land grab by russia
Give it 24 hours, Nicky will agree with you. And then this time next week, he'll be back on Russia's side.
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