[bots]

the other thing is that there is a huge selection of streaming options available, providing literally thousands of sources. Those sources are all heavily pirated, which means viewing figures now mean nothing at all

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bots

the other thing is that there is a huge selection of streaming options available, providing literally thousands of sources. Those sources are all heavily pirated, which means viewing figures now mean nothing at all

Very true.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by bots

the other thing is that there is a huge selection of streaming options available, providing literally thousands of sources. Those sources are all heavily pirated, which means viewing figures now mean nothing at all

incorrect, yes they have been diluted by what you say but they are still crucial
for setting advertising rates and getting revenue. Also Networks and studios
still use detailed audience data to decide which shows to commission, renew, or
cancel.

The later gathered data across platforms etc is still valuable and used

[Livia]

I think a lot of people are disappointed with the recent batch of BBC programmes. I notice the Famous Five shown this morning, set during WW2 and included a middle class couple, the wife was black. I can suspend my disbelief, I can't suspend it that far. It diminishes the crap mixed race couples went through in the past to suggest it would have been accepted as "normal" in the 1940s. We have some great black actors, I have absolutely no problem watching them when it's plausible they would have been there. Similarly, I don't want to see white people play Othello but of course that would never be allowed because blind casting only works one way. The BBC is a champion of blind casting. It's just another thing contributing to their downfall.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think a lot of people are disappointed with the recent batch of BBC programmes. I notice the Famous Five shown this morning, set during WW2 and included a middle class couple, the wife was black. I can suspend my disbelief, I can't suspend it that far. It diminishes the crap mixed race couples went through in the past to suggest it would have been accepted as "normal" in the 1940s. We have some great black actors, I have absolutely no problem watching them here it's plausible they would have been there. Similarly, I don't want to see white people play Othello but of course that would never be allowed because blind casting only works one way. The BBC is a champion of blind casting. It's just another thing contributing to their downfall.

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[Livia]

I know a lot of people who refuse to watch stuff that's blind casted. For some people, watching TV and film is the only history they'll ever get and to distort it in this was is so wrong. They say it's to give opportunities to black actors but they feel no need to make special provision for white working class actors. You never hear a working class accent in Bridgerton, do you.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Have you seen this interview clip?:

The BBC wanted to replace one of the hosts of Top Gear with a diversity hire.

This is of course referring to the most famous and popular trio of hosts,
Clarkson, Hammond, and May.

The man in the video is Andy Wilman, the producer of the show, who then went
on to be the producer of The Grand Tour.

He explains in detail how, just because Top Gear attracted a diverse audience,
the BBC thought it would be a great idea to fire one of the hosts and replace
them with a Black or Asian host. The logic behind it? None, of course, just like
99 percent of what the woke BBC does.


https://x.com/AndrewGold_ok/status/2...365693722?s=20

[bots]

it's not just the BBC that does it. The problem is that they are the only one that has a mandatory payment requirement. That has to be abolished. Then people could vote with their wallets

[Shaun]

Last year was a bit of a one-off really with figures we'll likely never see again... the Gavin and Stacey finale is probably the most anticipated show with universal appeal since the days of, like, The Vicar of Dibley or Only Fools and Horses.

Since about 2010 there's been a struggle for new shows to really become a cultural phenomenon, and most have been international big-budget things (Squid Game, Stranger Things, Game of Thrones)... UK sitcoms just don't really grab big audiences any more even when they're actually great (Derry Girls, Amandaland, Fleabag, This Country etc)

[Good King Glennceslas]

What really bores me is the far right take. Every dip in ratings gets blamed on diversity or woke. Same script every time. No thought. No curiosity. Just lazy culture war noise. It ignores how viewing habits changed, how platforms exploded, how choice killed the monoculture. Blaming diversity is easier than understanding reality. And frankly it is getting dull.

They really ignore the fact that the way we consume TV is very different.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Strange but true….biggest audience on BBC1 on Christmas Eve was for a 10
minute regional news bulletin which attracted a little under 2million viewers at
5.20pm, just pipping Eastenders, 1.9m, & Paddington, 1.8m for bragging rights
as the channels biggest audience of the day.


Stranger, but just as true…biggest audience on ITV1 on the Sunday between
Xmas and NY was also to a shortened regional news bulletin, 1.9m at 5.20pm.
(Biggest non-news audience on the channel, 1.7m for a repeat of a Xmas
edition of The Chase)