[Crimson Dynamo]

A brave Crowborough resident stood up at a public meeting and asked the Home Office:

"How do you plan to meet the sexual needs of 600 men?"

The official's blunt reply? "I don't."

Says it all.

https://x.com/TheNorfolkLion/status/...651803021?s=20

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Parmy

Lots of gang rapes happening to children walking home from school.

Originally Posted by Parmy

It's not cultural they say...



Yet we have honour gang rapes.

https://www.cigionline.org/articles/honor-gang-rape/

You’re mixing up headlines with reality.

Yes, horrible crimes happen. They always have. One article or a handful of cases doesn’t equal “this is what migrants are like”. That’s the leap you keep making.

Honour crimes exist. They’re rare. They’re illegal. The people who do them go to prison. That’s it. It doesn’t magically describe millions of other people who’ve done nothing wrong.

And here’s the bit you keep avoiding: most abuse of kids in the UK is done by people they already know. Family. Family friends. Trusted adults. Always has been. But that never turns into protests or panic, does it?

So simple version:
crime = individuals
courts = punishment
using extreme cases to judge everyone = fear, not facts.

[Parmy]

For example, in August 2008, The Independent reported that President Karzai pardoned three men who had been found guilty of gang raping a woman in the northern province of Samangan. When the local community saw the rapists back in their village, they lost hope for the Karzai government and pledged to take revenge on the perpetrators. Fearing retribution, the perpetrators fled the area






I wonder where they fled to..

[Parmy]

Honour crimes exist. They’re rare. They’re illegal. The people who do them go to prison. That’s it. It doesn’t magically describe millions of other people who’ve done nothing wrong



You get pardoned in Afghanistan...

[Parmy]

Honour rapes and honour killings are a thing in Pakistan and afgahnistan.


But still the self righteous TIBBERS want them here.

[Parmy]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/378862...ck-small-boat/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ld-girl-court/


https://www.gbnews.com/news/small-bo...ed-rape-oxford

None would have been raped if we didn't have mass unchecked people entering the UK illigally.
Suck it up girls...there are still people around that care more about criminals then they do victims.

[Parmy]

Hundreds of hotel residents....appeared in court in the 1st 6 months of 2025.


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...arged-32089361

[Glenn.]

You keep mixing everything together.

Bad things happen in Afghanistan and Pakistan. That’s exactly why people flee those places. They’re not coming here because they like how things work there.

Posting Sun/GB News links doesn’t prove migrant culture. It proves individuals committed crimes and were arrested, charged and jailed in the UK. That’s the system working.

None would have been raped if migrants weren’t here is just false. British men were raping women and kids long before mass migration and still do now. Crime didn’t suddenly appear.

Simple facts:
• crimes are done by individuals
• criminals go to prison here
• blaming millions for a few people = prejudice

You’re not protecting anyone. You’re just using the worst crimes possible to justify a fear you already had.

[Parmy]

Bad things happen in Afghanistan and Pakistan. That’s exactly why people flee those places. They’re not coming here because they like how things work there.



You don't have a Scooby why they fled...like myself. You can say it till you're blue in the face, but you still can't claim it as factual.

[Livia]

In the end, those places will be full of women and children with all their brave young heroes over here with their hand out.

[Parmy]

None would have been raped if migrants weren’t here is just false. British men were raping women and kids long before mass migration and still do now. Crime didn’t suddenly appear.


Oh I'm sure that's heartening to the girls...

Ah well, we were gonna get raped anyway. At least it's done now.

[Parmy]

Let's not mention the rape and abuse of the actual female migrants and their children that's going on.

[Livia]

How long till they start to attack our gay communities? I guess it might become a problem then...

[bots]

1 word ... ghettos ..... thats how we know its not working. That wasn't even a word when i was growing up

[Glenn.]

You’re not being realistic here, you’re just spiralling.

People don’t flee places like Afghanistan or Pakistan for a laugh. They flee because those places are violent, corrupt and unsafe. That’s literally what asylum is for. Acting like that’s some unknowable mystery just makes you look like you’re pretending not to understand.

No one said rape doesn’t matter because it happens anyway. That’s something you’ve invented. Pointing out that crime existed before migrants isn’t dismissing victims, it’s saying blaming migrants doesn’t stop crime. It just gives you a convenient group to aim at.

And this sudden concern for women and kids is hard to take seriously when it only shows up when migrants are mentioned. Female migrants and their children are some of the most abused people going, but they don’t seem to count as victims in your world unless they’re useful for the argument.

The they’ll come for gay people next line is just scare-story nonsense. Plenty of migrants are gay themselves and fled those countries because of it. Meanwhile, homophobia here didn’t arrive recently, it’s been home-grown for decades.

At this point you’re not talking about safety or facts. You’re just throwing scary ideas around and hoping they justify what you already believe. Fear is doing all the work.

[Crimson Dynamo]

People flee Pakistan??

London and Birmingham are violent, corrupt and unsafe.

I mean what on earth am I reading here

🙄

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

People flee Pakistan??

Yes. Obviously.

People flee Pakistan for religious persecution, honour violence, forced marriages, blasphemy laws, political violence, and being gay. All of that is well-documented and has been for years.

UNHCR data shows that in 2024 over 43,000 people from Pakistan lodged asylum applications in other nations, including places like the UK, Italy and Canada.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Yes. Obviously.

People flee Pakistan for religious persecution, honour violence, forced marriages, blasphemy laws, political violence, and being gay. All of that is well-documented and has been for years.

UNHCR data shows that in 2024 over 43,000 people from Pakistan lodged asylum applications in other nations, including places like the UK, Italy and Canada.

Honour violence means they messed up, right?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Yes. Obviously.

People flee Pakistan for religious persecution, honour violence, forced marriages, blasphemy laws, political violence, and being gay. All of that is well-documented and has been for years.

UNHCR data shows that in 2024 over 43,000 people from Pakistan lodged asylum applications in other nations, including places like the UK, Italy and Canada.

That is called gaming the system not reality

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Parmy

I will take it as a yes then.

I would hope that everyone would take an issue with anybody that wants to change British society to benefit foreign nations cultures.

Which is not just Islam trying to do that tbf.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BBXX

He is delightful.

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2025/10/2...-one-in-seven/

Is he in the closet? I don't mean that to be Homophobic, it's just he is really fixated on men being masculine in every conceivable way, so I was just wondering.

And did he class himself as apart of the Alpha Unit?

And what's sad here is that any good points that he might have is destroyed by how extreme his stances end up going.

For example, I do think that we need to fix how younger generation men and women are perceiving each other in certain parts of the world, but his inflammatory comments towards women will just make more Misandrists which in turn will create more male Incels.

He isn't helping basically is my point.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

By that logic, every school assembly, uni consent talk, workplace training and pub toilet poster in the UK would be proof that British men have a rape culture. Which, awkwardly, is a conversation we already have.

You’re reading way too much into a laminated bit of paper and ignoring the obvious. Crime is dealt with by police and courts, not leaflets. The leaflets exist to prevent harm, not because someone’s admitting collective guilt.

At this point you’re not arguing facts, you’re just grabbing anything that fits the fear you already decided on.

Not nowadays they don't.


They deal with tweets.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

That is called gaming the system not reality

That’s just you deciding it must be nonsense because you don’t like the answer.

If every bit of evidence you disagree with is waved away as people cheating the system, then nothing will ever count for you. That’s not being sceptical, that’s just refusing to accept reality.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Yes. Obviously.

People flee Pakistan for religious persecution, honour violence, forced marriages, blasphemy laws, political violence, and being gay. All of that is well-documented and has been for years.

UNHCR data shows that in 2024 over 43,000 people from Pakistan lodged asylum applications in other nations, including places like the UK, Italy and Canada.

Apart from being persecuted for being gay all of this is happening in the UK right under your nose

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Apart from being persecuted for being gay all of this is happening in the UK right under your nose

No one’s denying that. The difference is here it’s illegal, it’s prosecuted, and it isn’t backed by the state or by social pressure. In places people flee from, forced marriage, honour violence, blasphemy laws and persecution are built into the system or openly tolerated. That’s the bit you keep skipping over.

Saying it happens here too isn’t some clever gotcha. If that was the standard, no one would ever qualify for asylum anywhere because no country is perfect.