[thesheriff443]

Just watched a white man take all the steak, cleaned it out and packs of sausages from and m and s garage, had so many in his arms dropped a pack of sausages on the way out because his arms were full
Walk straight past a worker who was too busy looking in a fridge
I told him about the shop lifter but he didn’t have a clue casually walked to another worker to tell him but they did nothing and said nothing they can do

The meat was located right at the back of the shop at the lowest point

They are letting their happen

[Cherie]

Do you think they are paid enough to stop these people, the police dont want to know when small shop owners call them about theft, why would a worker paid minimum wage put themselves in danger?

Why didn't you step in and stop him and make a citizens arrest?

[Livia]

Agree with @Cherie. Shop workers are not paid nearly enough to police the shop too. On the other hand, they have a security guard at my local Morrisons and I've never seen him anywhere but behind his little desk by the door, fiddling with his phone. Even if someone exits and the alarm goes off he doesn't even look up.

[rusticgal]

Unfortunately you never know what you will be confronted with these days and people are too frightened to confront them...shops do not have fully trained full on security guards.

Shops must be making huge losses...it may be worth their while getting proper security guards who are able to deal with them.

[Livia]

In the UK even shop owners are not allowed to protect their stuff. We've had all means of protecting ourselves removed.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

Agree with @Cherie. Shop workers are not paid nearly enough to police the shop too. On the other hand, they have a security guard at my local Morrisons and I've never seen him anywhere but behind his little desk by the door, fiddling with his phone. Even if someone exits and the alarm goes off he doesn't even look up.

I think security guards have their hands tied as well in that if they lay hands on the thief sometimes it doesn't end well

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I think security guards have their hands tied as well in that if they lay hands on the thief sometimes it doesn't end well

Yeah, I do get that...

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Do you think they are paid enough to stop these people, the police dont want to know when small shop owners call them about theft, why would a worker paid minimum wage put themselves in danger?

Why didn't you step in and stop him and make a citizens arrest?

Make it harder put the most stolen items next to the till

I could of stopped him but if there is not even the slightest bit of prevention it’s pointless

[bots]

Ideally, they would capture the thief on video and then the police can do facial recognition and pay them a visit

[Cherie]

I think given his hands were full I would definately have said something, probably got a mouthful of abuse for my trouble

Yesterday in Green Lanes in Haringey a jewellery store was robbed, locals attacked the thieves with brooms, they almost unseated one on his motorbike, so the general public do have a part to play

The ironic part is the jewellers only sold gold plate they must be raging

[Crimson Dynamo]

They just raise prices to compensate

[Maru]

If they're not prosecuting theft at the local level, then it's almost not worth the effort to even report it. Here you can do citizens arrest and they'll get picked up, but they'll be out as soon as they see a judge and get a court date. It can incentivize it with the chronically homeless/dysfunctional lifestyle folk who learn to benefit from round trips with law enforcement. Some companies will fire employees for intervening if they're not loss prevention. Some won't let them intervene at all. I guess too many people got injured from being chased into displays and such, so they didn't see the point because of legal costs. Most theft can be internal and there tends to be more money lost there (and easier to intervene).

When I did counts for an electronics retailer, we could tell it was internal because the boxes would come with X amount of the same product and it always in multipliers of those quantities maybe +1~2. So it was employees taking them right off the truck and taking it home with them and reselling them (probably).