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Can you imagine what would happen to s couple of Brits breaking into an Iranian war base - during war time ??


They would be hung , drawn and quartered live on Iranian TV


These two will be released on a £50 bail tomorrow

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Youtube video

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Poor Thailand

Over 8,000 holidays have been cancelled

Due to a Dubai stopover.

Again, Big Anger at Trump & Israel
in todays papers.

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Originally Posted by bots

Youtube video

Yes, I watched that on Sky News

Lucky for him and the cameraman
to be alive

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What gets me is that Trump keeps calling the people who could help him cowards and that he doesn't need their help. He almost says the opposite from one sentence to the next.

The guy has been erratic before, obviously, but it seems to be getting worse

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MoD doesn't confirm or deny US media reports of Diego Garcia attack

The UK Ministry of Defence has neither confirmed nor denied that Iran has launched missiles towards the joint US - UK military base at Diego Garcia.

In a statement released a few minutes ago, an MoD spokesperson says: "Iran’s reckless attacks, lashing out across the region and holding hostage the Strait of Hormuz, are a threat to British interests and British allies.

“RAF jets and other UK military assets are continuing to defend our people and personnel in the region.

“This government has given permission to the US to use British bases for specific and limited defensive operations.”

Earlier, when asked about reports of the strikes in US media, the Pentagon said it had “nothing to provide”.

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Diego Garcia attack


Yes, can the Iranian Missile travel that far?

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Originally Posted by bots

What gets me is that Trump keeps calling the people who could help him cowards and that he doesn't need their help. He almost says the opposite from one sentence to the next.

The guy has been erratic before, obviously, but it seems to be getting worse

This is true. From my point of view, the whole pattern is completely predictable at this stage. Trump keeps attacking the very people who could help him, calling them cowards one minute and then insisting he doesn’t need anyone the next. It’s the same contradictory swing he’s shown before, but it feels even more exaggerated now.

And honestly, even if NATO did contribute more, there’s no reason to think he’d appreciate it. In a few months he probably wouldn’t acknowledge it, or he’d downplay it the way he’s dismissed other allies’ contributions in the past — including the way he talked about UK involvement in the Second Gulf War. That’s why, from my perspective, NATO are absolutely right not to get dragged into this. He can complain all he wants; I’m proud we’re not getting involved.

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

This is true. From my point of view, the whole pattern is completely predictable at this stage. Trump keeps attacking the very people who could help him, calling them cowards one minute and then insisting he doesn’t need anyone the next. It’s the same contradictory swing he’s shown before, but it feels even more exaggerated now.

And honestly, even if NATO did contribute more, there’s no reason to think he’d appreciate it. In a few months he probably wouldn’t acknowledge it, or he’d downplay it the way he’s dismissed other allies’ contributions in the past — including the way he talked about UK involvement in the Second Gulf War. That’s why, from my perspective, NATO are absolutely right not to get dragged into this. He can complain all he wants; I’m proud we’re not getting involved.

NATO with an american partner is finished. We couldn't rely on them, so we may as well call it the european defence force and be done with it. I hope that we are just trying to keep trump happy for now while we gear up ourselves, but that would demand some joined up thinking

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Originally Posted by bots

NATO with an american partner is finished. We couldn't rely on them, so we may as well call it the european defence force and be done with it. I hope that we are just trying to keep trump happy for now while we gear up ourselves, but that would demand some joined up thinking

I agree — from my perspective, we really need to go it alone. The entire situation feels like a recurring pattern, and Trump's handling of it reinforces that feeling. The idea of him demolishing the East Wing to build a ballroom serves as a perfect metaphor for his broader approach: tearing down something established to replace it with whatever suits him at the moment.

My concern, at least from where I sit, is that the impact won't be short-term. It could take years — perhaps decades — for the U.S. and everyone else affected to untangle the consequences of these decisions. That's why I understand the argument for maintaining our distance. From this viewpoint, staying out of it isn't just sensible; it's something to take pride in.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bots

What gets me is that Trump keeps calling the people who could help him cowards and that he doesn't need their help. He almost says the opposite from one sentence to the next.

The guy has been erratic before, obviously, but it seems to be getting worse

I am not following all this particularly closely but yesterday I heard reports of Trump supposedly slagging off the UK again but about an hour later we had apparently agreed to allow the US forces to attack or use our bases ?!?

Didn’t make any sense at the time

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Latest bombshell from Trump

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Sky News Text :
[Two missiles launched by Iran at a
British military base in Diego Garcia
were a warning to Europe,
diplomatic and intelligence sources have told
The Sunday Times. It is believed to be the
furthest Iran has fired its missiles.]

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President Trump has now stated he will
attack Iran's Power Plants
If they do not open the Strait of Hormuz.



His latest Truth Social Post

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i'm not saying what's right or wrong, because both sides have done things not in the interests of ordinary civilians. However, anyone with a brain can see that all this is, is escalation after escalation and that never ends well