[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Redway

That’s the way of this forum. Let xenophobia and baity racism run rampant but delete anything that questions anything (even toxicity), draw a line under it even at the expense of the thread’s coherence. That’s the way of this hypocritical, selectively passive forum. And my interactions with you get sucked into that by default, even when nothing harsh has been said. This comment will be deleted before any of Crimson Dynamo’s bigoted, baity nonsense is. I keep saying that’s a disgrace. This forum’s a disgrace at times. The things it prioritises deleting and sweeping under the carpet (like this post, inevitably) while actual prejudice runs rampant and indirectly enabled.

By the way. You’re taking the “young” bit too literally. Anyone under 45 counts as young enough these days, and you know that. And it’s always about the relatively younger women to you. And the thing is, I don’t think any of those women would want to have sex with you, to be honest. But yet you insist on seeing women through a body-first lens and feeling entitled to judge or limit them. And you’re just that little bit too open and proud about it. It’s not really about virulence or red-bloodedness at this point in the game. Something much worse. And I don’t want to believe you really can’t see it. There must be a shred of self-awareness somewhere along the line.

And, yeah, I know you always claim to always have women’s best interests at heart but when it comes to not judging them based on how appealing their bodies come off to you or their place in sports-commentary, that understanding on your part just doesn’t seem to exist, and it just contradicts whatever good you have to say about individual women (usually ones attractive to you in some way). It’s not good, is it?

Anyway, I don’t know if you’re even going to be able to see this message, depending on when these people come in and decide to delete a whole chain of responses and brush it all under the carpet, as-usual. So this post could end up just being a waste of time. But I’m putting it out there for now.

TL;DR: you’ve got a wife at home. Focus more on her than the bodies of women you’ll never know. That much lusting over unattainable strangers is an abomination when you’re half a century deep in marriage. And I really hope you see that one day. Most older men who engage in all that content (and, nah, that is not me being ageist) do it on the down-low, on the quiet. You’re extremely vocal about it and seem to think it’s what everyone wants to hear. It’s too open and repetitive. So’s my beef with you, really, but it is what it is. You need to be told.

Redway stop getting personal
You think you are the moral police but you are not!
You are just another forum member and members are sick of the constant attacks on zizu

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by MTVN

It is amazing to see the transformation in people who have been fat their whole lives and are now at a normal weight. Presumably they tried and failed multiple times to lose weight the natural way before resorting to the jabs so I wouldn't judge anyone for going down that route. Obviously it's much better to lose it through healthy eating and exercising but let's not pretend that is easy when a lot of people have such little spare time in the day

…yeah I largely agree with this in many aspects in that there have been many dietary aids and invasive surgeries over years and over much time…I think though that with any rapid and significant weight loss… the important thing is that it should be with medical advice and monitoring as I’m not sure of any potential health dangers of as you say, someone being overweight for much of their life and then their body adapting to something completely different…and obviously with many cases there are psychological reasons for the larger weight that maybe aren't being addressed with the jabs unless they are under medical direction…maybe the jab can just represent a part of ‘weight control’ of an eating disorder….I mean, I just don’t know enough about how these jabs are taken and whether it is with medical supervision but obviously that’s always going to be a key factor…

[Redway]

The default drug most people’s minds go to is Ozempic but I’ve heard of people having good results with Mounjaro, too. Then there’s topiramate, which is inconsistent in that regard but does often, as a side-face, cause weight-loss in the first year of taking it. That might not be ideal for people who are skinny to begin with and if anything could do with putting on a bit of weight, all in the name of treatment of migraines/seizures (which are some of the main reasons people take topiramate) or sweat-control (very off-label niche, but happens). When it does work, it can work terrifically for dramatic weight-loss (I’m talking as much as a couple of stone in 3 months), but it’s not guaranteed to do that or even anything. There’s always been that subsection who only lose a few pounds, or nothing at-all. But probably about 60%, still, I would say lose significant amount of weight on topiramate, especially if they were overweight to begin with). And either way, it comes at the cost of some horrible side-effects that make it difficult to tolerate. So it’s a gamble, and one you’ve got to choose carefully, if you want to be about that life.

I can imagine the potential side-effects of injections of this Ozempic not being pretty but if you need it, you need it, so long as it doesn’t kill you, and there’s nothing-else you can do about it but force yourself to exercise/hit the gym for too long and go on diets. When someone needs to lose a couple of stone, surgery or medication can come into it quite a bit sometimes. And realistically for most people, especially when you’re working full-time and have a family/kids, it would just take too long doing it strictly by diet and exercise alone. That works when you need to lose, like, 2 stone. For people who actually need to lose, like, 5 or 6 stone or something, it’s … yeah. It’s just that getting a prescription for things like topiramate is difficult when it comes to weight-loss. It’s prescribed very commonly just for that in the U.S. (which we all know has a much bigger obesity-epidemic than us) but not so much in the U.K., because it’s off-label and U.K.-doctors like to stick to certain guidelines which don’t lend themselves to using serious neurological drugs just for the sake of weight-loss. So sometimes people will buy it off online pharmacies but not be able to consistently afford it every month if they’re struggling a bit, or just don’t have the disposable cash. Ozempic and Mounjaro are more accessible to the general public, and I know that for Ozempic, at-least some of the time, you can get bumped up the waiting-list for it and held in more priority if you have a history of certain mental-health/mental-health-adjacent conditions, which don’t necessarily have to be severe by default. Could be just mild OCD.

The Cambridge 1:1 diet is also a good natural way to do it, because it actually works and can cause dramatic weight-loss week-by-week, but diets like that are very difficult to do, so for some people it just doesn’t stick. But on a diet like that for a couple of months, coupled with those medications I mentioned earlier, including Ozempic (especially by injection), and maybe Xenical to shift just a few more pounds (even at the cost of non-oily stools that don’t have people producing diarrhoea by-default whenever they want to do a number-2, and find themselves really needing toilet-wipes as much as tissue-paper), who knows what could happen? I can’t say anything for-sure but it does feel like that could lead to rapid weight-loss and exceed the target at-least some of the time. And obesity’s a health-problem that leads to other health-problems and can even stop a lot other medications from working as well as they would at a healthier weight-baseline. So it can be for a really good cause, all-these medical weight-loss interventions. Yes, some people do it out of insecurity about their looks and figure but people will abuse anything. And even, and especially, those people deserve love and compassion, not judgment and scrutinisation. And naturally not everyone will abuse it. Medications like phentermine (an appetite-suppressant that’s often baked into topiramate when it’s a weight-loss prescription), additionally, might get people to a place where their attitude towards food accommodates for periods of diet and fasting within them, because their feelings about food in-general are dampened for as long as they’re on that medication, if they’re going roundabout the whole thing in a healthier, less jump-to-Ozempic-straight-away type-thing. Maybe they all coalesce into one holistic paradigm of weight-loss when they all merge together. But whether they start with Cambridge 1:1 dieting or not, deciding to go down the Ozempic-route is … their choice. It’s not for us to judge. It’s weight-loss. They’re not chasing a destructive high. And obviously there can be nuance around how some of these medications can be mixed and matched, and natural limitations in and around that, but in theory, a lot of people might end up on that, full-stack. It might not be that risky but until that becomes something more people have done we can’t really know that for sure.