[bots]

people vote for what floats their boat on the day of the voting. No reason is necessary, or it could be they like the sound of someones name, or the candidate appears at the top of the ballot. Everything is valid and doesnt need to make sense to anyone else

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The tl;dr is basically "we have eyewitness reports of people being followed into the voting booths, but can't prove it beyond that due to lack of CCTV."

AND "even if we could, the number witnessed was too small to make a difference, even if we did strike off their votes."

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The tl;dr is basically "we have eyewitness reports of people being followed into the voting booths, but can't prove it beyond that due to lack of CCTV."

AND "even if we could, the number witnessed was too small to make a difference, even if we did strike off their votes."

Shouldn't be using quotation marks for fantasy short stories, as it's completely disingenuous. It was dismissed, citing a lack of evidence, including following up with the people who made the complaint.

Not sure some people will accept any response other than "it was the muslims wot dunnit," but go off, king.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

There is/was absolutely nothing in the green party campaign that wasn't based on benefitting the whole country. Maybe you didn't like that they were proud to support the trans and ethnic minority communities?

The historic voting problem this country has, is that voters continually vote against their own interests, based on either aspiration or hatred.


There is nothing racist about honkys voting for their own interests, however, if the one issue you're talking about is the sole reform policy of kicking out the darkies, then yes, that's racist.

Youtube video

She even talks to the same white working classes she belongs to, from around one minute in.

So yes, if you believe voting for racism, would make you a racist (using you in general, not specific), then yes, that is absolutely racist, and also a continuation of brothers and sisters voting against their own interests, which will continue to benefit the only group that wins everytime kindness is rejected at the ballot box - namely, billionaires and corporations.

Mate I spoiled my vote in the last election and will be doing the same in the next unless there is some miracle turnaround, but go off King

I dont have a problem with trans per se, but there are alot of suspicious trans using it for their own ends and really impinging on womens rights but as a man I guess you really dont get that

I know you love to paint me as a racist and a transphobe and probably a homophobe and every other phobia, the fun part is I could care less, you do you which is basically profiling people who dont align with your views, how progressive

[Livia]

The Far Left, because, let's face it, that's what the Greens are now, won't tolerate any kind of racism. Except anti-Semitism. They're very much in favour of it, in fact. Zack Polanski has been disowned by his own (Jewish) family over anti-Semitism in his party. Let them say what they want, let's all see who they are really...


Shocking antisemitic comments have surfaced in leaked WhatsApp messages from a pro-Palestine faction inside the Green Party, prompting fresh accusations of deep-rooted hatred within the party. Activists in the group Greens for Palestine described Jewish people as “an abomination to this planet” and accused them of murdering, bombing and starving children.

One participant insisted on openly identifying protesters in Golders Green as Jews rather than Zionists, declaring: “They were Jews and we shouldn’t be afraid to say it. They were Jewish supremacists.” The exchange escalated with the claim: “Enough of being scared of hurting their feelings while they murder, bomb and starve children.”

Another member added: “They are an abomination to this planet,” while a further comment called for activists to “take back the narrative and the true meaning of the terms, particularly zionism and semite.”

Separately, one activist linked to the group suggested the arson attack on four Hatzolah ambulances belonging to a Jewish charity in Golders Green was a “false flag” operation, potentially staged by Jewish people themselves.

The individual shared news coverage of the incident and noted: “I saw somebody recently say that false flags were coming.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ws-abomination
Daily Express, but the same article appears in a range of news sources.

[Parmy]

The greens and the far left that they have incorporated under the banner of hope not hate are the vilest of people, massive hate filled hypocrites of anyth7ng not aligned with their thinking. Your either one of them, or you're a Nazi, racist, fascist or some other word half of them have no idea of the true meaning. Had they, they would realise they should be shouting at themselves.

To many old drippy 1990s hippies brains riddled with the effects of to much ecstasy.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Mate I spoiled my vote in the last election and will be doing the same in the next unless there is some miracle turnaround, but go off King

I dont have a problem with trans per se, but there are alot of suspicious trans using it for their own ends and really impinging on womens rights but as a man I guess you really dont get that

I know you love to paint me as a racist and a transphobe and probably a homophobe and every other phobia, the fun part is I could care less, you do you which is basically profiling people who dont align with your views, how progressive

I think you misunderstand quite a bit of my post, here.

I didn't say you were a reform voter.

Its wholly acceptable if you are an ethnic minority to vote for issues that affect you, if you are not and vote for issues that affect you, you are deemed a racist...that is how it is now I am afraid.

This very clearly uses a racist trope about PoC having special privilege, or get away with things that white people would never allowed to, which is just plainly false, and also not the only time you've ever used that same trope.

My post merely pointed out, that the greens ran a campaign to appeal to all sectors of the local community. Labours own post election report, showed that greens beat them with white working class voters.
:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...enton-analysis

So the only implication here, is that issues that affect white people* are very different to issues that affect non-whites, and that only leaves one area being hinted at.

I don't think you're a full, across the board, racist. I think you have some blind spots, but racism is still racism, and I'm not on the forum posting your posts for you, you write them yourself. I don't really post on this forum at all these days. I'll post the occasional post in threads about the greens moving forward, and maybe, even less frequently in one of the war threads, so the only reason I replied, was because it was in this thread.

As for trans people, even writing what you posted in this thread is along the same hints and innuendo trope, but that's by the by - you do you.

However, one thing that I stated years ago, and have been consistent about, is that the same far right billionaire class that bombarded that debate into the public sphere, will come for women, and it's now starting to happen a little more openly.

The trad wife movement is just percolating nicely in the US, women's rights continue to be eroded, and this is the next phase. The incoming AI wave, will decimate work opportunities, so with the reduction of available jobs, and them being geared more towards labour, rather than offices, who do you think will get the majority of those jobs, as one job per household becomes the norm, we know which sex will be chained to the kitchen like it's 1950 all over again.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...0said%20policy

Reform’s Danny Kruger criticises UK’s ‘totally unregulated sexual economy’
This article is more than 1 month old
Former Conservative laments divorce changes and says Reform UK will pursue policies to boost birthrate

In a party, that is most likely to win the next GE, this is what they feel comfortable talking about openly. Richard Tice has said he wants to end the sexual revolution, which introduced birth control, and the ability for women to finally chose how they wanted to live their lives.

Talk about actually being hoisted by your own petard...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Greens’ ‘Zionism is racism’ vote descends into chaos

Members of Zack Polanski’s (aka David Paulson) party fail to make decision on
proposal classifying Jewish self-determination



Voting on the controversial “Zionism is Racism” motion has been delayed after
the Green Party spring conference descended into chaos.

Technical failures, a row over misgendering, and six votes of no confidence in
the party officials chairing the online event caused significant delays to the
conference, leaving dozens of motions undebated and not subject to voting.

It also called for the abolition of the state of Israel

The Greens are surging in popularity at present at a time when anti-Semitism
in Britain on the rise. Earlier this month, four charity-owned ambulances
were set on fire in north London in a suspected anti-Semitic attack.

Earlier in the week, The Telegraph revealed that party activists had
described Jewish people as “an abomination to this planet”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...tion-polanski/

[Parmy]

Skip to 25 minutes to see 2 neighbours collide. 1 is protesting outside a reform party meeting attended by Nigel farage. She spot a her neighbour going into the event and has a face to face with him.

An interesting and telling conversation between two "former" friends.


25 minutes in. Conversation lasts about 4

https://youtu.be/y3aosms5jYA?si=RRz9CbeArYTZ0E9X

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Parmy

The greens and the far left that they have incorporated under the banner of hope not hate are the vilest of people, massive hate filled hypocrites of anyth7ng not aligned with their thinking. Your either one of them, or you're a Nazi, racist, fascist or some other word half of them have no idea of the true meaning. Had they, they would realise they should be shouting at themselves.

To many old drippy 1990s hippies brains riddled with the effects of to much ecstasy.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1DjkpCBKyN/

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Parmy

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1DjkpCBKyN/

What t f do these people bring to the party, exactly?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Parmy

Skip to 25 minutes to see 2 neighbours collide. 1 is protesting outside a reform party meeting attended by Nigel farage. She spot a her neighbour going into the event and has a face to face with him.

An interesting and telling conversation between two "former" friends.


25 minutes in. Conversation lasts about 4

https://youtu.be/y3aosms5jYA?si=RRz9CbeArYTZ0E9X

The left has always turned up to Tory meetings, and now to Reform meetings, to call people names. The woman bawling out her neighbour should wind her neck in, her message seemed to be "you're okay with me being here so you should be okay with every illegal, undocumented fighting age male who wants to come!" and she wouldn't let him speak. She's ridiculous. Reform has been demonised by hysterical lefties for a while now. They turn up, call people names, imagine they have all the answers. The noisiest ones should try putting all that energy into a job so they can pay a bit of tax, keep their brothers and sisters in blue hair dye and Rizlas.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I think you misunderstand quite a bit of my post, here.

I didn't say you were a reform voter.




This very clearly uses a racist trope about PoC having special privilege, or get away with things that white people would never allowed to, which is just plainly false, and also not the only time you've ever used that same trope.

My post merely pointed out, that the greens ran a campaign to appeal to all sectors of the local community. Labours own post election report, showed that greens beat them with white working class voters.
:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...enton-analysis

So the only implication here, is that issues that affect white people are very different to issues that affect non-whites, and that only leaves one area being hinted at.

I don't think you're a full, across the board, racist. I think you have some blind spots, but racism is still racism, and I'm not on the forum posting your posts for you, you write them yourself. I don't really post on this forum at all these days. I'll post the occasional post in threads about the greens moving forward, and maybe, even less frequently in one of the war threads, so the only reason I replied, was because it was in this thread.

As for trans people, even writing what you posted in this thread is along the same hints and innuendo trope, but that's by the by - you do you.

However, one thing that I stated years ago, and have been consistent about, is that the same far right billionaire class that bombarded that debate into the public sphere, will come for women, and it's now starting to happen a little more openly.

The trad wife movement is just percolating nicely in the US, women's rights continue to be eroded, and this is the next phase. The incoming AI wave, will decimate work opportunities, so with the reduction of available jobs, and them being geared more towards labour, rather than offices, who do you think will get the majority of those jobs, as one job per household becomes the norm, we know which sex will be chained to the kitchen like it's 1950 all over again.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...0said%20policy

Reform’s Danny Kruger criticises UK’s ‘totally unregulated sexual economy’
This article is more than 1 month old
Former Conservative laments divorce changes and says Reform UK will pursue policies to boost birthrate

In a party, that is most likely to win the next GE, this is what they feel comfortable talking about openly. Richard Tice has said he wants to end the sexual revolution, which introduced birth control, and the ability for women to finally chose how they wanted to live their lives.

Talk about actually being hoisted by your own petard...

Isn't it great for you that you only need to concern yourself with SOME womens rights

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Livia

The left has always turned up to Tory meetings, and now to Reform meetings, to call people names. The woman bawling out her neighbour should wind her neck in, her message seemed to be "you're okay with me being here so you should be okay with every illegal, undocumented fighting age male who wants to come!" and she wouldn't let him speak. She's ridiculous. Reform has been demonised by hysterical lefties for a while now. They turn up, call people names, imagine they have all the answers. The noisiest ones should try putting all that energy into a job so they can pay a bit of tax, keep their brothers and sisters in blue hair dye and Rizlas.

She is certainly ridiculous. Going on about all the good times, the chats, the street parties they shared ignoring the fact it disproves the racist jibe...imagine Anne Frank if she had neighbours like that.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Isn't it great for you that you only need to concern yourself with SOME womens rights

Pretty fundamental ones as it happens. Also, actually real ones. No one on this forum has been a victim of the kind of things trans panic tries to scare folks into believing, but the right to choose how you can leave a marriage? Being chained to the kitchen? abortion healthcare?

Yeah, your rights are really about to be trampled for real, and you're still worried about make-believe issues.

As an individual, your priorities are your priorities, I have no issue with that at all, but think of this post in a few years, when everyone tries to pretend they had no idea, and could not have possible known what was coming.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Pretty fundamental ones as it happens. Also, actually real ones. No one on this forum has been a victim of the kind of things trans panic tries to scare folks into believing, but the right to choose how you can leave a marriage? Being chained to the kitchen? abortion healthcare?

Yeah, your rights are really about to be trampled for real, and you're still worried about make-believe issues.

As an individual, your priorities are your priorities, I have no issue with that at all, but think of this post in a few years, when everyone tries to pretend they had no idea, and could not have possible known what was coming.

I am concerned about all women's rights infringements, you don't give a flying fig about women just own it, women can be concerned about two things at the same time, I don't think the Far Right are on the rise due to trans issues that's a very minor part of their brief but you know that and as for people on the forum not having to deal with any issues, you care about things you have never had to deal with like racism so not sure what point you are trying to make there, I have never had an abortion either but I care about women being able to choose for example

[Crimson Dynamo]

It’s happening…the Greens are going to have to choose between LGBT and the hardline Muslim vote

The Lawyer Akhmed Yakoob calls out the greens calling the vile display in Traflagar Square

DEGENERACY


https://x.com/Akhmedyakoob1/status/2...180784810?s=20

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I am concerned about all women's rights infringements, you don't give a flying fig about women just own it, women can be concerned about two things at the same time, I don't think the Far Right are on the rise due to trans issues that's a very minor part of their brief but you know that and as for people on the forum not having to deal with any issues, you care about things you have never had to deal with like racism so not sure what point you are trying to make there, I have never had an abortion either but I care about women being able to choose for example

You see, that assertion isn't based in reality. You have openly misogynist men on this forum, who because they also hate trans people, they're seen as caring about women, which doesn't make sense to me.

Caring about women (and everyone in society also), is not about pandering to every whim, or playing on the real and necessary fears women have always needed to stay alert to.


I've read feminist academia and it isn't as myopic as only women understand women, only black people understand racism. The literature opines that any system that oppresses any group, oppresses all, so you even have feminism needing to protect men (which blew my mind when I first understood it), because of the understanding that patriarchy is detrimental to men, and everyone who lives under it, not just women, so this to attempt to limit feminism to just be a shield to hide bigotry behind, does a complete disservice to the feminist movement as a whole.

It seems that though this anti-trans stuff (in general, not talking about you), seems to want to completely narrow down and limit what women are, and what they should want and feel, when the goals of feminism are way loftier.

[Crimson Dynamo]

A female British Army vet writes:

There is not a single MP in this country that I would ever wish harm on. I may
disagree with them or find their politics abhorrent, but intimidation has no place
in a democracy. What we are now seeing from this, The Green Party
candidate turning up at an MP’s office in an intimidating manner towards her
and her staff, is completely unacceptable. We have already seen where this
road leads with the murders of Jo Cox and David Amess, two MPs with different
politics but the same tragic outcome, and it should have been a line that is
never crossed again. This behaviour fuels that same dangerous environment
and it must stop, and the Green Party should act immediately and stand this
individual down.

appauling video is here: https://x.com/claire_adams694/status...307961050?s=20

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

A female British Army vet writes:

There is not a single MP in this country that I would ever wish harm on. I may
disagree with them or find their politics abhorrent, but intimidation has no place
in a democracy. What we are now seeing from this, The Green Party
candidate turning up at an MP’s office in an intimidating manner towards her
and her staff, is completely unacceptable. We have already seen where this
road leads with the murders of Jo Cox and David Amess, two MPs with different
politics but the same tragic outcome, and it should have been a line that is
never crossed again. This behaviour fuels that same dangerous environment
and it must stop, and the Green Party should act immediately and stand this
individual down.

appauling video is here: https://x.com/claire_adams694/status...307961050?s=20

The greens described one man asking Hannah Spencer if a woman could have a penis in front of her supporters, as an assault, she was described as being harassed, assaulted, accosted..One of their fellow far left groups male leaders, hope not hate I thnk it was, even punched a lesbian in the face for nothing, on international women's day. As a council worker of some sorts he was suspended by the local council...did they condemn his actions? NO, they started a petition to have him reinstated.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Parmy

The greens described one man asking Hannah Spencer if a woman could have a penis in front of her supporters, as an assault, she was described as being harassed, assaulted, accosted..One of their fellow far left groups male leaders, hope not hate I thnk it was, even punched a lesbian in the face for nothing, on international women's day. As a council worker of some sorts he was suspended by the local council...did they condemn his actions? NO, they started a petition to have him reinstated.

I've heard they also ate babies, and held a "see how far you can kick a puppy" competition.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I've heard they also ate babies, and held a "see how far you can kick a puppy" competition.

Proof please...got a link?