[Aimee]

He really annoyed me on the show last night when he was bitching about Orlaith [Makosi defended her which he didn't like] and she walked into the room and he then asks her 'Do you think you'll be in the final?' and then, when she asked him an identical question, he says 'Why, why should I have an opinion about myself, its not up to me is it? I think its a huge presumption. That's not a game I'm playing I'm 41.'

Then he bitches, again merely to himself [or us] saying 'She's a silly cow asking me such a stupid question to think I'm so naive.' But HE asked her that question just minutes beforehand. She was merely continuing a conversation he started and which he started to cover up the fact he was bitching about her.

I just though that whole episode summed him up for the nasty, sly, two-faced winker that he is. Also what has being 41 got to do with it? Does he think that makes him better than the others?

I know there is already another thread up about Derek but I felt this was worthy of new comment.

[Sunny_01]

Totally agree with what you are saying - he was trying to cause some kind of argument

[Dan_]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
Totally agree with what you are saying - he was trying to cause some kind of argument

That's the thing with him, he plays a clever game of making other people react to him and then they end up looking bad while he just sit's back looking totally innocent and a picture of calm and non-threatening.

[science_to_win]

I think the man really does have issues. He is my definition of a psychopath...and Craig in the Myra Hindley wig of course

[Sunny_01]

and he always denies having said such things like when Ant confronted him about saying he was gay - no I dont recall saying that

[Dan_]

Yer and that makes everyone else look like liars and stirrers.The man has more front than blackpool pleasure beach.

[Kore]

yeah that comment was a bit hateful.

i disagree about makosi thought.. shes just as bad as derek.

2faced as hell

[Sunny_01]

oh I agree Makosi is no better than Derek just different

[Dan_]

I think Derek plays a clever game more so than Makosi.

[science_to_win]

I dont even think he plays a game. I just think he's full of hate and jealousy. After all he's not the person he aims to be

[Sunny_01]

hmmm - better game not sure that I agree - Makosi manages to make people like Ant actually like her which Derek has yet to achieve

[Dan_]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
hmmm - better game not sure that I agree - Makosi manages to make people like Ant actually like her which Derek has yet to achieve

Well Craig and Anthony have both been talking in detail to Derek and Craig does not like Makosi. You also have to bear in mind the influence he has other housemates e.g. Kemal and Eugene.

[SMC]

Derek is a legend - end off,

[Dan_]

He is a bigotted nasty snob end of.

[Aimee]

Originally posted by BB fernzy
He is a bigotted nasty snob end of.

Agreed.

[AndyJK]

When Orlaith suddenly entered the room, Derek was making sure she didn't catch wind on what they were saying by asking the first question that entered his head. I don't think its part of any game plan. He just likes to gossip about people he doesn't like to a friendly ear - as we all do!

[GlitterEyes]

One thing i hate about derek is the way he gives evil looks at people. His eyes tell alot!

[Dr.G]

Originally posted by Aimee

Agreed.

Of course he is in fact I personally think he's racist but that seem to be taboo around here so I won't elaborate...

[Fangz]

Give me proper evidence to back up your claim that Derek is racist, DrG, not 'there is no other reason to dislike Orlaith blahblahblah.'

[SMC]

Originally posted by Dr.G

Of course he is in fact I personally think he's racist but that seem to be taboo around here so I won't elaborate...

Lets not start this again, jesus christ ...the word 'racist' has been used in this years show far to often and far too freely, if he was racist would he have voted to save Eugene this week? lets not even go there man.

[Fangz]

People cry racism when they're losing an argument.

[Sunny_01]

Can we get back on topic here

[Slartibartfast]

The comment didn't bother me at all, he knew by asking Orlaith the question about getting to the final week that he could make her look bad. If she answered yes, she'd look like a egotistical cow with delusions of grandeur and if she said no (which she did) he was ready to challenge her over having said to the guys that she would stay to the final week.

And of course when she askedthe question back to him he was never going to answer. It's all a game to Derek and he would never allow himself to either be so stupid as to say oh yes I'll be here in the final week, or be so pathetic and self deprecating to say oh no I'll never make it to the final week. Either way Derek looks bad so he's right not to answer the question, but orlaith was too slow to realise this herself so she goes and puts her big feet in her mouth!

[Fangz]

Orlaith tripped herself up with her own words, Derek just put her into the position to do so.

[Sunny_01]

I think when she was talking about this she was saying something like " I have this awful feeling" so it wasnt really something that she was bragging about if we are honest. She was saying it as if she was dreading it and thought that because she was so unhappy the public would make her stay