[Marsh.]

Originally posted by ange7
08marsh ...wake up. Your getting all this grief from everyone because you think you can hold all these anti gay positions yet not be a gay hater. That's rubbish.

That's like Hitler saying he's not anti semitic and doesn't have a personal problem with Jews but would just like them all exterminated. Mate what your arguing, ie the positions you have, comes from hate. You can't say you don't hate gays when you argue that they ought not have the same opportunities to live a full and happy life as you do. Not sure why you keep complaining about being called a homophobe. Sorry ... it fits.

Talk about overreation! Anyway...

I never said 'I hate gays buts lets have them exterminated'
I said i don't agree with homosexuality full stop. Just because i don't think it's right doesn't mean i want them all to die, hate them all. I accept they are still people.

I've already settled my argument with the other posters via u2u. So go away with your pathetic, over the top Hitler comparison.

[NettoSuperstar!]

why dont you agree with it?

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
why dont you agree with it?

Don't get me wrong i'm all for individuality and everyone being unique. But i just don't think (like a lot of people do) that it is natural, to me it's wrong. I don't have anything against homosexuals as i've said a million times and people can come up with a million reasons and counter arguments against mine but those are my thoughts.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Well I still dont really understand why you think its wrong or why gay people shouldnt have equal rights (ie being able to adopt)

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Well I still dont really understand why you think its wrong or why gay people shouldnt have equal rights (ie being able to adopt)

I don't think it is natural like a lot of people make out it is.
If they want children then they should follow natural means (ie. Man and woman) to have a baby.

[letmein]

Originally posted by 08marsh

I don't think it is natural like a lot of people make out it is.
If they want children then they should follow natural means (ie. Man and woman) to have a baby.

They're gay, honey. They're not going to have sex with a woman. There are millions of children in orphanages. This isn't a fairy tale and there are gay couples who are a million times better than straight couples being parents.

[Fom]

Originally posted by 08marsh

Don't get me wrong i'm all for individuality and everyone being unique. But i just don't think (like a lot of people do) that it is natural, to me it's wrong. I don't have anything against homosexuals as i've said a million times and people can come up with a million reasons and counter arguments against mine but those are my thoughts.

What would you rather... to live your life in an orphanage, never having parents, never having a family and never having a comfortable home. Or to have all of that but they are the same sex, you will adapt to them kissing, you won't see them having sex, and the walls aren't going to be painted with Gay pride flags. The only thing that would make this wrong is if the child is somehow homophobic, which won't happen because they are young and will just be happy someone loves them.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Fom
you will adapt to them kissing, you won't see them having sex, and the walls aren't going to be painted with Gay pride flags.

This isn't the issue. Like i said i'm not narrow minded into thinking all gays are overly camp, cross dressers with squeaky voices. It's not the issue that i think the child will watch them have sex (of course they won't). I am just against homosexuality in all its forms. As said above i don't think the sexuality is natural.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by letmein

They're gay, honey. They're not going to have sex with a woman. [/quote]


Erm, obviously. I am saying that in choosing homosexuality, they have given up their ability to conceive. (Don't feed me crap about being born gay) If they can't have children it's their choice for being homosexual.

[Fom]

Originally posted by 08marsh

They're gay, honey. They're not going to have sex with a woman.

Erm, obviously. I am saying that in choosing homosexuality, they have given up their ability to conceive. (Don't feed me c**p about being born gay) If they can't have children it's their choice for being homosexual. [/quote]

You don't choose to be homosexual. It isn't a lifestyle choice.

[Annie]

Children deserve to be loved. I would rather see a gay couple (male or female) raise a happy child than see a fighting hetrosexual couple and an unhappy child.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Fom


You don't choose to be homosexual.

Sure.
(You definately aren't 'born gay'.)

[Tom]

Originally posted by 08marsh

Sure.
(You definately aren't 'born gay'.)

Gay brains are different to straight brains. They have different metabolisms and different structures. How do you explain those?

[arista]

Originally posted by 08marsh

Sure.
(You definately aren't 'born gay'.)

Marsh talk sense.


You know about X and Y


You are "born"
Straight
or
Gay
or
BiSexual



Everyone knows that

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Tom

Gay brains are different to straight brains. They have different metabolisms and different structures. How do you explain those?

I will say it is possiby to do with surroundings growing up or when you're a small child.
And yes Tom i will explain those 'facts' you just stated;
Excuses and bullshit.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by arista

Marsh talk sense.


You know about X and Y


You are "born"
Straight
or
Gay
or
BiSexual



Everyone knows that

I can't understand whether you're taking the piss or are actually serious but either way...

[arista]

Originally posted by 08marsh

I can't understand whether you're taking the p**s or are actually serious but either way...

I am deadly Serious

Do you live in a Church or something odd?


In school you learn about the X and Y.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by arista

I am deadly Serious

Do you live in a Church or something odd?


In school you learn about the X and Y.

X and Y chromosomes are male and female.
It determines your sex not SEXUALITY. So don't try and lecture me.

[arista]

But you Lack Proper Education in this.


Are you in a Church?



Marsh you are a good Poster
but Fom was bang on right
You are born Gay.
That is a Fact.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by arista
But you Lack Proper Education in this.


Are you in a Church?



Marsh you are a good Poster
but Fom was bang on right
You are born Gay.
That is a Fact.

Excuse me. Lack proper education?
I don't know what kind of a school you went to but i was taught that the X and Y chromosomes determined a baby's sex (as in whether it's a boy or a girl).
There is absolutely no proven fact that you are born gay or whether it is genetic.

[arista]

Yes
you can cross cells.

You Get a Gay

or

A BiSexual.



That is a Fact
Most know about this.



Fom is Clever.



Marsh are you Bi Sexual
is that the issue here?

[Jake!]

Originally posted by 08marsh

Excuse me. Lack proper education?
I don't know what kind of a school you went to but i was taught that the X and Y chromosomes determined a baby's sex (as in whether it's a boy or a girl).
There is absolutely no proven fact that you are born gay or whether it is genetic.

While you are right you weren't told the full extend, the Y chromosome produces testosterone [Excuse spelling], it might be enough to produce a baby boy but it doesn't mean its enough to make them manly or boystrous.

But also in your favor enviroment CAN give you inherited factor but as strongly as genes.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Jake!

While you are right you weren't told the full extend, the Y chromosome produces testosterone [Excuse spelling], it might be enough to produce a baby boy but it doesn't mean its enough to make them manly or boystrous.

But also in your favor enviroment CAN give you inherited factor but as strongly as genes.

And?
Just because some aren't as manly or boystrous, that doesn't make them fancy cock.
Now, you're the one being stereotypical. There are plenty non camp manly gay people.

[Tom]

Originally posted by 08marsh

I will say it is possiby to do with surroundings growing up or when you're a small child.
And yes Tom i will explain those 'facts' you just stated;
Excuses and bullshit.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7456588.stm

Have a read of that. I was all for the upbringing side of the debate until that study

[NettoSuperstar!]

Marsh yet again shows his ignorance! We've already had this debate. Being Gay us NOT a choice!