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Old 08-08-2005, 11:58 AM #1
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i meant he likes eugene and eugenes boring. I just saying he slags makosi off when Eugene aint exactly entertaining
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OPL73, you're a man after my heart! I totally concur and its something I've been saying since the start off BB4.

Housemates should be evicted based on their entertainment rating, not how bitchy they are and how many lies they've told. I don't particular like Craig but he's been good value with his tantrums and bitching; I didn't like Makosi saying she was pregnant but didn't start screaming for her to be evicted; Really, I couldn't give a flying toss which housemates have game plans and manipulate the others to further their chances to stay in the show, and to demonstrate this point I would have been the first to congratulate Nick Bateman had he won and got away with his scheming.

Its time Channel 4 changed the voting so we vote to keep housemates we think deserve to stay IN.
Agreed. Cheers Andy, but I'm female. Was it the swearing that made you think I was a man? I've been told countless times that my mouth needs washing out with soap.

Oh and Kore. Predictable till the end eh?
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Agreed. Cheers Andy, but I'm female. Was it the swearing that made you think I was a man? I've been told countless times that my mouth needs washing out with soap.

Oh and Kore. Predictable till the end eh?
I think it probably was sorry!
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OPL73, you're a man after my heart! I totally concur and its something I've been saying since the start off BB4.

Housemates should be evicted based on their entertainment rating, not how bitchy they are and how many lies they've told. I don't particular like Craig but he's been good value with his tantrums and bitching; I didn't like Makosi saying she was pregnant but didn't start screaming for her to be evicted; Really, I couldn't give a flying toss which housemates have game plans and manipulate the others to further their chances to stay in the show, and to demonstrate this point I would have been the first to congratulate Nick Bateman had he won and got away with his scheming.

Its time Channel 4 changed the voting so we vote to keep housemates we think deserve to stay IN.
Agreed. Cheers Andy, but I'm female. Was it the swearing that made you think I was a man? I've been told countless times that my mouth needs washing out with soap.

Oh and Kore. Predictable till the end eh?
well, ive said to myself that boring makosi will win.

so if she does win (which i think she will), then yes it will be a shambles and too predictable.
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I posted the below on another thread about Makosi. Oh didums. She's a liar, she's bitchy, she's maipulative. So what!

So *******ing what. It's *******ing game.

You people have obviously yet to grasp it. At the risk of repeating myself. IT'S A GAME. I don't give too S**ts whether people are bitchy, lie cheat or steal. That means they are playing the game.

It's underhanded it's manipulative, but I really don't care. I would love it if she won. I don't like her. In fact I don't really like any of the of the people who are left (at a push Eugene is okay I guess) so I think it would be great if she won. She's played them all. That's what it's all about. I'd be doing the same thing if I was in there (minus the pregnancy claims of course)

Oh and Anthony is puerile, boring and dull. I don't dislike or like him but....oh my God yawn. In the real world Anthony would have told Craig to p*** off ages ago. None of these people are like this in reality. You can not know someone from a TV show. It's just so sad you don't realise it.

No doubt all the Anthony fans will jump on my back because of the above comments but let me guess, the majority of fans that like him are 14-20 years olds. Yes? Surprise, Surprise.

One last thing. Who cares if Makosi bitches behind people's back or anyone else for that matter. It's part of everyday life. Everybody does it!! Everybody puts on a facade to those they don't like either. Why? For an easier life. It's just more highlighted because it's on TV. I've mentioned this before, but can anyone tell me if Makosi has ever got personal with her bitching?

Makosi may bitch, but like Anthony said when he nominated her to stay in. She doesn't get personal. I.E. Insults.

She might say I can't stand him/her, play she said he said or moan about someone, but for the life of me I'm struggling to recollect if she has thrown personal insults like the others. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I dont know why we bothered these people still cant understand! maybe if we wrote with bright colours and capital bold letters they might be able to understand more, they obviously havent realised that this aint care bears and it is actually a brutal,mean game show where u have to be two faced. they cant understand maybe they have abit of a problem mentally and cant understand the concept of the game show so they want someone 100% boring like eugene to win.
i feel sorry for them really. maybe after ten series of big brother they might be able to get it in there heads!
Or benefit of the doubt they might just be really boring people
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I posted the below on another thread about Makosi. Oh didums. She's a liar, she's bitchy, she's maipulative. So what!
Is that the way to play a game though? The British Public (and myself) will have our vote influenced by two things, the entertainment value and the truthful value. Makosi indeed has given a lot to Big Brother this year and I don't doubt that. What I do doubt though is that should someone as you describe win? Why should they win? "Because it's a game?" How do you play the Big Brother Game? How do you measure how someone plays the Big Brother game? Is it by lieing throughout the whole show or being yourself? When did you dictate how BB is to be played?

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You people have obviously yet to grasp it. At the risk of repeating myself. IT'S A GAME. I don't give too S**ts whether people are bitchy, lie cheat or steal. That means they are playing the game.
Does it? When was Big Brother about people doing all that in the name of the game? For me, Big Brother to people is a question of who they really are. It's a question of how they will cope in an environment like this for 10 weeks. This of course is my own ideology. There is no true way to play Big Brother.

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It's underhanded it's manipulative, but I really don't care. I would love it if she won. I don't like her. In fact I don't really like any of the of the people who are left (at a push Eugene is okay I guess) so I think it would be great if she won. She's played them all. That's what it's all about. I'd be doing the same thing if I was in there (minus the pregnancy claims of course)
If that's your reasons for her winning, then fine. I don't see how there is a written bit of paper saying that is how you must play the game.

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Oh and Anthony is puerile, boring and dull. I don't dislike or like him but....oh my God yawn. In the real world Anthony would have told Craig to p*** off ages ago. None of these people are like this in reality. You can not know someone from a TV show. It's just so sad you don't realise it.
Argubly all of these people are different to a certain extent than they are in reality. In reality, their jobs and their family will effect who they are. Big Brother cancels that out and brings out a different side to them. Everyone is indeed false to a certain extent.

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No doubt all the Anthony fans will jump on my back because of the above comments but let me guess, the majority of fans that like him are 14-20 years olds. Yes? Surprise, Surprise.
I've seen the Makosi fans being the most immature to be honest (no offence to any and minus the maker of this post)

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One last thing. Who cares if Makosi bitches behind people's back or anyone else for that matter. It's part of everyday life. Everybody does it!! Everybody puts on a facade to those they don't like either. Why? For an easier life. It's just more highlighted because it's on TV. I've mentioned this before, but can anyone tell me if Makosi has ever got personal with her bitching?
The public will care. The public will see and voice their opinion on them bitching.

You're right about it being a game, of course. But Big Brother is also a question of character as well as a question of entertainment.

There is no real way to play Big Brother either.
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I posted the below on another thread about Makosi. Oh didums. She's a liar, she's bitchy, she's maipulative. So what!

So *******ing what. It's *******ing game.

You people have obviously yet to grasp it. At the risk of repeating myself. IT'S A GAME. I don't give too S**ts whether people are bitchy, lie cheat or steal. That means they are playing the game.

It's underhanded it's manipulative, but I really don't care. I would love it if she won. I don't like her. In fact I don't really like any of the of the people who are left (at a push Eugene is okay I guess) so I think it would be great if she won. She's played them all. That's what it's all about. I'd be doing the same thing if I was in there (minus the pregnancy claims of course)

Oh and Anthony is puerile, boring and dull. I don't dislike or like him but....oh my God yawn. In the real world Anthony would have told Craig to p*** off ages ago. None of these people are like this in reality. You can not know someone from a TV show. It's just so sad you don't realise it.

No doubt all the Anthony fans will jump on my back because of the above comments but let me guess, the majority of fans that like him are 14-20 years olds. Yes? Surprise, Surprise.

One last thing. Who cares if Makosi bitches behind people's back or anyone else for that matter. It's part of everyday life. Everybody does it!! Everybody puts on a facade to those they don't like either. Why? For an easier life. It's just more highlighted because it's on TV. I've mentioned this before, but can anyone tell me if Makosi has ever got personal with her bitching?

Makosi may bitch, but like Anthony said when he nominated her to stay in. She doesn't get personal. I.E. Insults.

She might say I can't stand him/her, play she said he said or moan about someone, but for the life of me I'm struggling to recollect if she has thrown personal insults like the others. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I dont know why we bothered these people still cant understand! maybe if we wrote with bright colours and capital bold letters they might be able to understand more, they obviously havent realised that this aint care bears and it is actually a brutal,mean game show where u have to be two faced. they cant understand maybe they have abit of a problem mentally and cant understand the concept of the game show so they want someone 100% boring like eugene to win.
i feel sorry for them really. maybe after ten series of big brother they might be able to get it in there heads!
Or benefit of the doubt they might just be really boring people
Or perhaps you need to understand that people don't actually like Makosi. Fair enough she may have caused a lot of drama and things for people to talk about but she does not have the qualities that people look for in a winner. She's a nasty piece of work and people are hardly going to vote for her to win if they don't like the person that she is. Well done to her for playing a game but to be honest I would rather someone that has been themselves throughout the show and told a bag of lies to be the centre of attention wins the show. So that's why my vote goes to Anthony! He has just been himself the whole way along, tried to have fun and been a good laugh and not taken himself so seriously.
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I know it's dog eat dog and I dont need the whole synopsis of BB s-p-e-l-t out for me. I come to this forum to chat and debate about about big brother. Everyone has their own opinions which is what makes us so diverse ... i know it's a game and not real life. I dont have mental problems and contrary to the above... i dont want eugene to win.... just anyone except makosi
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I know it's dog eat dog and I dont need the whole synopsis of BB s-p-e-l-t out for me. I come to this forum to chat and debate about about big brother. Everyone has their own opinions which is what makes us so diverse ... i know it's a game and not real life. I dont have mental problems and contrary to the above... i dont want eugene to win.... just anyone except makosi
Well said - I am not sure that I like the implications made about other members that do not agree with those who like Makosi! just because we dont like her and dont like the way she behaves does not mean we do not realise that it is a game!
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I know it's dog eat dog and I dont need the whole synopsis of BB s-p-e-l-t out for me. I come to this forum to chat and debate about about big brother. Everyone has their own opinions which is what makes us so diverse ... i know it's a game and not real life. I dont have mental problems and contrary to the above... i dont want eugene to win.... just anyone except makosi
Well said - I am not sure that I like the implications made about other members that do not agree with those who like Makosi! just because we dont like her and dont like the way she behaves does not mean we do not realise that it is a game!
I'm glad someone agrees with me
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I know it's dog eat dog and I dont need the whole synopsis of BB s-p-e-l-t out for me. I come to this forum to chat and debate about about big brother. Everyone has their own opinions which is what makes us so diverse ... i know it's a game and not real life. I dont have mental problems and contrary to the above... i dont want eugene to win.... just anyone except makosi
Well said - I am not sure that I like the implications made about other members that do not agree with those who like Makosi! just because we dont like her and dont like the way she behaves does not mean we do not realise that it is a game!
Agreed, some people just simply don't like Makosi for the way she is but it does not mean that we don't realise she's playing a game. I think we know only too well that she's playing a game. I respect that but it does not make me want to vote for her to win, just because she has made this effort to play a game.
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Spot on fernzy .... just because she playing a game dosent give her the sole right on winning!
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Or perhaps you need to understand that people don't actually like Makosi. Fair enough she may have caused a lot of drama and things for people to talk about but she does not have the qualities that people look for in a winner. She's a nasty piece of work and people are hardly going to vote for her to win if they don't like the person that she is. Well done to her for playing a game but to be honest I would rather someone that has been themselves throughout the show and told a bag of lies to be the centre of attention wins the show. So that's why my vote goes to Anthony! He has just been himself the whole way along, tried to have fun and been a good laugh and not taken himself so seriously.
I wouldn't go as far as to say Makosi was a nasty piece of work. Yes, there have been times when she's been very mean to the other housemates, but she's also shown a caring and considerate side too which, sadly, is often overlooked. She's stuck in that house for nearly 3 months without very little complaint and offered friendly advice to other housemates who've been struggling. The girl has done well and deserves some credit.

And although I have been openly critical of Makosi during her time in the house, I do think she's done enough to win the show.
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i dont like makosi i just think she is playing the game well and deserves to win. i want anthony to win cos i like him and he is a nice guy! and how can people say they dont want her to win cos they dont like her truthfully u dont have to like her it is a game and the best player should win to be fair makosi is just in character it is a GAME so thats all she's doing playing a game so she dont have to have morals or anthing cos it is a game!
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i dont like makosi i just think she is playing the game well and deserves to win. i want anthony to win cos i like him and he is a nice guy! and how can people say they dont want her to win cos they dont like her truthfully u dont have to like her it is a game and the best player should win to be fair makosi is just in character it is a GAME so thats all she's doing playing a game so she dont have to have morals or anthing cos it is a game!
youve been supporting makosi thru-out the show.

u little liar

thats like me saying:

'ive liked makosi thru-out the whole show, shes my fave, but i desparately want her evicted asap'

but as you know i have never thought makosi was entertaining at all. and mainly from the start had a feeling this unentertaining woman would win it.
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i dont like makosi i just think she is playing the game well and deserves to win. i want anthony to win cos i like him and he is a nice guy! and how can people say they dont want her to win cos they dont like her truthfully u dont have to like her it is a game and the best player should win to be fair makosi is just in character it is a GAME so thats all she's doing playing a game so she dont have to have morals or anthing cos it is a game!
Stop going on about it being a game, it's a reality tv show, the winner is not decided on who has played the best game in theory it's actually a populairty contest, you can choose to play a game or you can just be yourself but I don't want her winning £100,000. This is NOT who you think has played the best game it's who you would like to win I am hardly going to want someone that I don't like to win. What about if they all played a game? What would you're basis for who should win then?
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What about if they all played a game? What would you're basis for who should win then? [/quote]

Who played the evil game the best. It would make for riveting TV. Greedy wannabe's doing anything to win. I'd love to see that. It would be better than the banality we have to endure now.
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There in lies my argument Savau. How the majority of the public perceive it to be. A popularity contest. Like yourself. How predictable. It's a shame but Big Brother lately has become a bit of an anti climax.

The main point of this thread is that it is a game, so who cares if they lie or bitch. Why do you have to be Mr Nice guy to win? You are right there are no rules saying you have to be a certain way to win. But I am sick and tired of people saying 'Oh she's bitchy' 'Oh he's manipulative' It's a game. If they want to play it that way so be it. It's just a pity the majority of the public can't see past this and vote for someone who has been different in their approach.

I would love it if some miserable git won, who nobody liked. Just for a change.

Oh and the little dig about 'I've seen the Makosi fans being the most immature to be honest (no offence to any and minus the maker of this post)' I suggest you read through my post again. I never said I was a fan or even liked her.

I liked Sunny's points, she didn't agree with the majority of what I posted, but didn't get personal either.

In response to you guy's realising it is a game. Out of who is left, answer me this. Who do you want to win? Let me guess Anthony or Eugene? Why? Because they have allegedly been themselves and haven't done much else really. Yawn.

To be honest I wish they would throw them all out, start again and give the public a day to find a new worthy winner. Can you imagine the faces?!! Now that would be funny.
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There in lies my argument Savau. How the majority of the public perceive it to be. A popularity contest. Like yourself. How predictable. It's a shame but Big Brother lately has become a bit of an anti climax.

The main point of this thread is that it is a game, so who cares if they lie or bitch. Why do you have to be Mr Nice guy to win? You are right there are no rules saying you have to be a certain way to win. But I am sick and tired of people saying 'Oh she's bitchy' 'Oh he's manipulative' It's a game. If they want to play it that way so be it. It's just a pity the majority of the public can't see past this and vote for someone who has been different in their approach.

I would love it if some miserable git won, who nobody liked. Just for a change.

Oh and the little dig about 'I've seen the Makosi fans being the most immature to be honest (no offence to any and minus the maker of this post)' I suggest you read through my post again. I never said I was a fan or even liked her.

I liked Sunny's points, she didn't agree with the majority of what I posted, but didn't get personal either.

In response to you guy's realising it is a game. Out of who is left, answer me this. Who do you want to win? Let me guess Anthony or Eugene? Why? Because they have allegedly been themselves and haven't done much else really. Yawn.

To be honest I wish they would throw them all out, start again and give the public a day to find a new worthy winner. Can you imagine the faces?!! Now that would be funny.
Well said, especially the bit about the miserable git winning, and the idea about chucking them all out!! That would be sweet!!
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There in lies my argument Savau. How the majority of the public perceive it to be. A popularity contest. Like yourself. How predictable. It's a shame but Big Brother lately has become a bit of an anti climax.

The main point of this thread is that it is a game, so who cares if they lie or bitch. Why do you have to be Mr Nice guy to win? You are right there are no rules saying you have to be a certain way to win. But I am sick and tired of people saying 'Oh she's bitchy' 'Oh he's manipulative' It's a game. If they want to play it that way so be it. It's just a pity the majority of the public can't see past this and vote for someone who has been different in their approach.

I would love it if some miserable git won, who nobody liked. Just for a change.

Oh and the little dig about 'I've seen the Makosi fans being the most immature to be honest (no offence to any and minus the maker of this post)' I suggest you read through my post again. I never said I was a fan or even liked her.

I liked Sunny's points, she didn't agree with the majority of what I posted, but didn't get personal either.

In response to you guy's realising it is a game. Out of who is left, answer me this. Who do you want to win? Let me guess Anthony or Eugene? Why? Because they have allegedly been themselves and haven't done much else really. Yawn.

To be honest I wish they would throw them all out, start again and give the public a day to find a new worthy winner. Can you imagine the faces?!! Now that would be funny.
Out of who is left I want Anthony to win, I know people go on about oh he's boring and all that and oh it's because he's mr.nice guy but for me he has been the person that has actually brought a smile to my face out of those left in the house, I like people to have a laugh and not take themselves seriously and for me that's him. I did want Science to win before him because I felt he was such a diverse personality and a great housemate but seeing as that's not possible I want the one person left that I feel I can identify with and also see as someone is fun.

To be honest I don't like all this gameplaying stuff, you can do the hell you want but when it comes down to it I want someone that I like and also find a good laugh to win and someone that I feel I actually know, I don't feel that with Makosi and I just cannot simply vote for someone like her to win, I don't want to give £100,000 to her just because she has played a game.

People have different views on what the winner should be like and I fully respect the view of the people who want Makosi to win because of the game she has played but she is not my cup of tea and just think that she has taken it too the extreme.
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Out of who is left I want Anthony to win, I know people go on about oh he's boring and all that and oh it's because he's mr.nice guy but for me he has been the person that has actually brought a smile to my face out of those left in the house, I like people to have a laugh and not take themselves seriously and for me that's him. I did want Science to win before him because I felt he was such a diverse personality and a great housemate but seeing as that's not possible I want the one person left that I feel I can identify with and also see as someone is fun.

To be honest I don't like all this gameplaying stuff, you can do the hell you want but when it comes down to it I want someone that I like and also find a good laugh to win and someone that I feel I actually know, I don't feel that with Makosi and I just cannot simply vote for someone like her to win, I don't want to give £100,000 to her just because she has played a game.

People have different views on what the winner should be like and I fully respect the view of the people who want Makosi to win because of the game she has played but she is not my cup of tea and just think that she has taken it too the extreme. [/quote]

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I would like to see Anthony win and not because he has been true to himself balh blah but to be honest he is a local lad who I can relate to a lot. Also because he is fairly kind to the eyes lol now that is me being shallow!!

I think that they have all been great this year in their own different way. Not keen on Makosi because she displays a lot of the things I dislike in a person BUT I still think she would be a deserving winner. Everyone knows I dislike Craig but I also think he would be a deserving winner. Basically I think that they have all done well to get this far and best of british to whoever walks away with the £100,000
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i dont like makosi i just think she is playing the game well and deserves to win. i want anthony to win cos i like him and he is a nice guy! and how can people say they dont want her to win cos they dont like her truthfully u dont have to like her it is a game and the best player should win to be fair makosi is just in character it is a GAME so thats all she's doing playing a game so she dont have to have morals or anthing cos it is a game!
youve been supporting makosi thru-out the show.

u little liar

thats like me saying:

'ive liked makosi thru-out the whole show, shes my fave, but i desparately want her evicted asap'

but as you know i have never thought makosi was entertaining at all. and mainly from the start had a feeling this unentertaining woman would win it.
Actually if u look thru previous posts u can see i dont like makosi all i've evr said about her was that she is entertaining i never have said that i wanted her to win all i ever said was that she deserves to win. i supported science all the way i said i like science the great cos for me he was the best housemate and i wanted him to win and i have said that i think anthony is a nice guy and i like him so ha ha ha back in ur face kore lol:thumb s:
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i dont like makosi i just think she is playing the game well and deserves to win. i want anthony to win cos i like him and he is a nice guy! and how can people say they dont want her to win cos they dont like her truthfully u dont have to like her it is a game and the best player should win to be fair makosi is just in character it is a GAME so thats all she's doing playing a game so she dont have to have morals or anthing cos it is a game!
youve been supporting makosi thru-out the show.

u little liar

thats like me saying:

'ive liked makosi thru-out the whole show, shes my fave, but i desparately want her evicted asap'

but as you know i have never thought makosi was entertaining at all. and mainly from the start had a feeling this unentertaining woman would win it.
Actually if u look thru previous posts u can see i dont like makosi all i've evr said about her was that she is entertaining i never have said that i wanted her to win all i ever said was that she deserves to win. i supported science all the way i said i like science the great cos for me he was the best housemate and i wanted him to win and i have said that i think anthony is a nice guy and i like him so ha ha ha back in ur face kore lol:thumb s:
LOL. its just my opinion. i think you secretly adore makosi, and pretending you hate her.

just my opinion. lol

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