[science_to_win]

I think Kate Thornton is brilliant! I used to dislike her, but now I've realised she's a sweet, down-to-earth funny woman. 100% BETTER THAN DAVINA. At least she can present and she doesn't have an irritating face. The sooner Davina's off my television, the sooner I can sleep properly again

Plus the X Factor is fantastic! It never fails to make me laugh (even though the same things always happen). X factor causes me less stress than Big Brother. However I was very disheartened when Rowetta didn't win last year and that ridiculous, good for nothing other than being a pub singer Steve won

[science_to_win]

I wish there was an angry smiley for my posts

[lilmissnaughty]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes

I've not seen a post as ridiculous as that for quite some time.

Two for the price of one, it seems.

Indeed, Kate can't possibly know how to handle 'her' crowd when she can't even treat the contestants with respect.

[Kaz]

Originally posted by science_to_win
I wish there was an angry smiley for my posts

How about ?

Works for me!

[science_to_win]

Originally posted by Kaz

How about ?

Works for me!

Haha!! Damn it

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by science_to_win

I think Kate Thornton is brilliant! I used to dislike her, but now I've realised she's a sweet, down-to-earth funny woman. 100% BETTER THAN DAVINA. At least she can present and she doesn't have an irritating face. The sooner Davina's off my television, the sooner I can sleep properly again

However I was very disheartened when Rowetta didn't win last year and that ridiculous, good for nothing other than being a pub singer Steve won

Which is why Davina is always working, and in so much demand that she works for ITV, CH4 and BBC, of course. Kate Thornton, on the other hand, is unemployed for 8/9 months of every year. There's not much call for an air-headed bimbo that can't get her lines right even when they're fed to her through an earpiece, it would seem.

Now that I can agree with 100%. It was fantastic to hear last week that he'd been dropped by his record company.

[Siouxsie]

Tabby should heve won he rocks

[Siouxsie]

rock on tabby

[lilmissnaughty]

Tabby was cool, but Ro was better.

[science_to_win]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes

Which is why Davina is always working, and in so much demand that she works for ITV, CH4 and BBC, of course. Kate Thornton, on the other hand, is unemployed for 8/9 months of every year. There's not much call for an air-headed bimbo that can't get her lines right even when they're fed to her through an earpiece, it would seem.

Now that I can agree with 100%. It was fantastic to hear last week that he'd been dropped by his record company.

Davina is probably in demand because producers know how well big Brother has done. I can't wait for her to wear herself out on television. People are going to get bored with her, many people dislike her anyway.
I've never seen Kate Thornton slip up. She just seems down to earth and really friendly. Davina on the other hand has to make ratings by sitting in a bikini and is also harsh to people. As Polly Hudson said, she's lost her warmth.
Plus I never take women seriously who call attractive women.

I love the fact though that Steve has started calling the X factor in the papers. BITTER CENTRAL. He must have been more stupid than what I thought, if he genuinly believed he was going to get far.

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by science_to_win

Davina is probably in demand because producers know how well big Brother has done. I can't wait for her to wear herself out on television. People are going to get bored with her, many people dislike her anyway.
I've never seen Kate Thornton slip up. She just seems down to earth and really friendly. Davina on the other hand has to make ratings by sitting in a bikini and is also harsh to people. As Polly Hudson said, she's lost her warmth.
Plus I never take women seriously who call attractive women.

I love the fact though that Steve has started calling the X factor in the papers. BITTER CENTRAL. He must have been more stupid than what I thought, if he genuinly believed he was going to get far.

Well of course she is. But she presented popular shows before BB started, too. That isn't going to happen any time soon, I don't think. Many people dislike every tv presenter - it's the majority, and the ratings, that matter.

The woman is inept - she slipped-up several times on every one of the live XF shows last year. Very down to earth, friendly, and speaks to people as though they were dirt on her shoe. Admittedly, I sat at home and wondered what the point of the bikini was, as it wasn't a particularly amusing gag. But it was hardly done to 'make ratings', as nobody would've known that it was going to happen. And she delivers a script with a little ad-lib - if she's 'harsh', then that's down to the script. Ah, yes - the salacious journalist!

So are you doubting yourself, then? Is that your point? As far as Kate Thornton is concerned, she's moderately attractive, but no great shakes. It's really quite shallow to suggest that a presenter that's clearly not particularly capable is somehow above criticism because she has a big smile.

He was an arrogant bully long before he'd ever even got his ugly mug on the telly. But that just makes his downfall all the more pleasing.

[science_to_win]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes

Well of course she is. But she presented popular shows before BB started, too. That isn't going to happen any time soon, I don't think. Many people dislike every tv presenter - it's the majority, and the ratings, that matter.

The woman is inept - she slipped-up several times on every one of the live XF shows last year. Very down to earth, friendly, and speaks to people as though they were dirt on her shoe. Admittedly, I sat at home and wondered what the point of the bikini was, as it wasn't a particularly amusing gag. But it was hardly done to 'make ratings', as nobody would've known that it was going to happen. And she delivers a script with a little ad-lib - if she's 'harsh', then that's down to the script. Ah, yes - the salacious journalist!

So are you doubting yourself, then? Is that your point? As far as Kate Thornton is concerned, she's moderately attractive, but no great shakes. It's really quite shallow to suggest that a presenter that's clearly not particularly capable is somehow above criticism because she has a big smile.

He was an arrogant bully long before he'd ever even got his ugly mug on the telly. But that just makes his downfall all the more pleasing.

Talks to people like dirt on her shoe?! whatever minGer. I think some people look for anything.

I think Davina is naturally a biatch. If she has to deliver things from a script then she obviously isn't natural. So what if Kate Thornton slipped up, that doesn't mean she's inept! Just means she's more casual.

I'll agree to disagree but I'd say Kate Thornton is above criticism because I think she's fantastic, so of course I'll defend her. Not because she has a big smile....gay. If I was shallow I'd be less likely to have an opinion, or one that mattered anyway. You obviously consider it worthy enough to keep this going. I'm in support of the woman because she makes me laugh. She doesn't have to try hard like Davina. Davina seems to think by mimicking a contestant she's making me laugh...well it isn't...it never has...it never will.

Also in regard to Davina, I turned off when Sam walked out. That's all I wanted to see. I know she would have had a rubbish interview. So did the crew...that's probs why she was in a bikini.

Have your opinion. I love the fact you dislike Steve. Infact I'd marry every person who agrees with that and go to jail for bigamy. I don't mind at all that you dislike Kate Thornton, I just disagree with you. It's a bit low to call me shallow, or insinuate it.

[CharlotteSometimes]

Yes, she talks to people as though they were dirt on her shoe. What has Roberto got to do with anything? And others will pay attention to the glaringly obvious.

All she has to do is trot out a few banal platitudes such as 'Are you nervous?' 'That's a pretty dress.' 'How do you think it went tonight?' etc. But even that seems too difficult for her to cope with.

Davina is hardly my life inspiration, although Kate Thornton is apparently yours. The point is that you dislike her because when your favourite hm's are evicted, they don't come across very well. That's their own fault, and nobody else's. She's there to conduct an interview, nothing more.

You should take a look at your earlier post then, where you do the very same thing at the end of your post.

[science_to_win]

Hahahaha! I feel absolutely ridiculous even arguing about this. What started off as me preferring Kate Thornton has turned into me looking like the captain of her fan club or something.

I don't like Davina because she bores me. The only housemates I liked this year were Science and Craig. Science had a brilliant interview with her and Craig's wasn't bad either. By looking at Science's compared to say Vanessas it's obvious who she preferred. That's where I think she's unprofessional.

I do like Kate Thornthon and I think she is a better presenter because she's just neutral and herself. I don't love her. The only presenters I really like are Ant n Dec and Michael Parkison (even though he's more of an interviewer )

Anyhoo, I dragged Roberto into it because I was making myself laugh (not very funny admittedly) nothing to get your knickers into a twist over.

I'm not sure what you're referring to about the end of my posts so I'll end it positively, because I'm a very happy person, with a great life. In 3 weeks I'll be at university wahoo!

[CharlotteSometimes]

Mighty oaks from tiny acorns grow.

The interview with Science was spoiled when Davina incorrectly told him that all of the hm's decided individually to ignore him, when it was actually Derek & Kemal's scheming that was responsible. There was nothing wrong with Vanessa's interview at all. She came across better than she ever did in the house, and the fact that she was a useless hm was pretty much skimmed over - hardly a bad interview.

You clearly weren't watching XF the week that Ro left, then.

Oh dear.

You seem to have a rather uncanny knack of reading things that aren't there in the first place.

The last sentence in the first paragraph of your first post on this page.

[sexy_rach]

big bro definatley. Thats why they have put X-Factor on after big bro finished cos they knew more people would tune into big bro and x-factor would loose publicity