[arista]

French President Nicolas Sarkozy
wants to stop women wearing the burkha

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...say-the-French


France a Nation at boiling point








Sign Of The Times.

[FrenchAffair2]

good

[icehot69]

the UK would never do anything like that or say anything like that in fear of offending someone

[30stone]

Yes they have wanted to for a long time, after they made a girl remove one in a school and it caused a big uproar..

[Ninastar]

Thats a bit unfiar if its a part of a religion.

[Captain.Remy]

France is a laic country so it's all fair. Religion signs are forbidden in public place, burkha is one of them. They can do that in private but not outside.
A big majority of French people agrees with this law.

[30stone]

Originally posted by Ninastar
Thats a bit unfiar if its a part of a religion.

But they have come to france to live, so they must live by french law.

[FrenchAffair2]

Originally posted by Ninastar
Thats a bit unfiar if its a part of a religion.

It's part of a foreign religion, not one that is from France.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : 30stone

But they have come to france to live, so they must live by french law.

Exactly. France is a democracy + a laic country. There's no official religion here, we're free to have any religion we want but we can't expose any religion signs at work and in public places.

When I have worked in England, it ''shocked'' me that a muslim woman did wear one. I wasn't used to it, women can't do that here.

[FrenchAffair2]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

Exactly. France is a democracy + a laic country. There's no official religion here, we're free to have any religion we want but we can't expose any religion signs at work and in public places.

When I have worked in England, it ''shocked'' me that a muslim woman did wear one. I wasn't used to it, women can't do that here.

it has nothing to do with showing it in public, it has to do with separating them from french culture. If they wish to leave what ever **** country they come from to enjoy a better life here in France then they should be willing to accept French culture, society and standards. One of which is women don't walk around with giant sheets over themselves.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : FrenchAffair2

it has nothing to do with showing it in public, it has to do with separating them from french culture. If they wish to leave what ever **** country they come from to enjoy a better life here in France then they should be willing to accept French culture, society and standards. One of which is women don't walk around with giant sheets over themselves.

It's got everything to do with showing it in public, it's against what France stands for: laicity, which is a big principle here.
I do agree they have to adapt themselves to the French culture and our society. And they are still criticizing what they got here while they wouldn't complain about anything in their own country. It pi$$ses me off. If they aren't happy about it, they should go back to where they belong.

[bansheewails]

It would be a bit like me turning up for work in a balaclava! Its hard when you can't see facial expressions and its just another way to keep a woman down!

[FrenchAffair2]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

It's got everything to do with showing it in public, it's against what France stands for: laicity, which is a big principle here.
I do agree they have to adapt themselves to the French culture and our society. And they are still criticizing what they got here while they wouldn't complain about anything in their own country. It pi$$ses me off. If they aren't happy about it, they should go back to where they belong.

laicity is just the seperation of state and religion which exists in pretty much every european nation.

[Ninastar]

Originally posted by 30stone

But they have come to france to live, so they must live by french law.

True.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : FrenchAffair2

laicity is just the seperation of state and religion which exists in pretty much every european nation.

So what ? These countries didn't react the same way and are maybe less 'protective' about that principle. France is very attached to it, we even got threaten by Bin Laden if we don't take that law back (the one about religions signs a few years ago)
You just cannot expose it in public places, simple as.

[arista]

Originally posted by Ninastar
Thats a bit unfiar if its a part of a religion.

France does not Care.


And I Know there is no God.

[Ninastar]

Originally posted by arista

France does not Care.


And I Know there is no God.

Yeh I agree about the god thing. I just dont see how it can happen.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : arista

France does not Care.


And I Know there is no God.

So are you against or for this law ?

And you take the 'There is no god' from your point of view of course. But yet this is not the debate right now.

[arista]

It is Typical of France.


This is why we must get Out of the Select Corrupt Club the EU.

[GiRTh]

Do you think it'll happen Remy? It seems a bit extreme to me.

[lily.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
France is a laic country so it's all fair. Religion signs are forbidden in public place, burkha is one of them. They can do that in private but not outside.
A big majority of French people agrees with this law.

I agree with this law too.

[30stone]

Im unsure, France has been talking about it for over a year now, so could take any time.

Like the driving age in England has taken like almost 4 years to be changed.


I don't really mind if they do or don't i think after a while they will, but it will cause uproar.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : GiRTh
Do you think it'll happen Remy? It seems a bit extreme to me.

Oh yes it will and sooner than we think. It's the national hot topic right now. It's a priority in Sarkozy's mind. And he's right to be honest. I'm a christian and I'm not alowed to show a cross so why would those muslim women do have the right to expose their religion choices ? Unfair.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : arista
It is Typical of France.


This is why we must get Out of the Select Corrupt Club the EU.

Care to elaborate ?

[lily.]

Originally posted by 30stone
Im unsure, France has been talking about it for over a year now, so could take any time.

Like the driving age in England has taken like almost 4 years to be changed.


I don't really mind if they do or don't i think after a while they will, but it will cause uproar.

It changed? I didn't know.