[arsenalforever]

Okay guys its the talking point so far on BB10 who was at fault who wasn't.Who was lying who wasn't?. So guys whoo were the villians and the good guys in this ARguement of BB10 so far?

[AhmedFan2004]

Major Issue - Noirin Wrecking Confidentiality

Minor Issues - Siavash's small white lies to save himself after being dug a grave by Noirin, Freddie's mistake/lie about not hearing names, possibly for the same 'salvaging' reasons.

Overall:

Noirin was totally wrong and caused the storm.
Other details are just fillers, lies/dodges to save oneself, confusion points, etc.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Siavash came out of it looking quite bad I think, because he lied about saying Kris and Karly's names to Noirin...but he should never have been put in that position in the first place, Noirin betrayed his confidence totally. I can understand him feeling backed into a corner and scrambling to explain himself when he felt ganged up on, and as far as I know he's been pretty upfront and honest about things prior to this. He likes Karly so maybe didn't want to out her as having said things behind Noirins back, but if it was me I would have just outed them there and then. He DID overhear their conversation calling Noirin a rabbit...so he had nothing to fear!

The editing made Freddie look like a fool because they missed out the part where he was trying to sit and talk to Noirin and her calling him a liar and walking off, and he looks like a liar as well, although I think he probably made a genuine mistake, he was pretty pissed.

Noirin comes out looking the best really, because even though she broke a confidence, she made Siavash look like a **** stirring liar, although he could have avoided that by being more direct in the bedroom and pointing the finger at karly and kris to their faces, the edit made freddie look like a fool pretty much and they showed none of her vile comments that she made later on in the night!

[AhmedFan2004]

Freddie did lie/make an error though.

End of the day, if Siavash decides to lie to save himself after being put in that position by trust-braker Noirin, then that's his choice.

And if Freddie lies or makes that error, that's his own doing, again.

I agree it could have been worse for Noirin. Like ears pressed against door, weirdos/freaks talk (might show next episode, near 5am) etc.

But Freddie did lie, so did Siavash and so did Noirin.

It's a case of weighing up the magnitude of their lies:

Noirin's: 'I promise I won't say anything'
Siavash: 'I didn't say your name Kris'
Freddie: 'I was in the toilet when the names were mentioned'

And Karly/Kris for denying they ever said anything. But maybe they said something similar, Siavash interpreted it as 'bunny' and thus in their minds or as part of their argument, they are in the clear.

Meh.

[Alf]

the influence of alchaol,
and taking things way out of propotion by noirin
siavash telling tales and not being able to back his tales up
and even though one of my favourites freddie also lied

why lots of people are blaming karly for this i dont know,
i've never heard anyone say noirin is a rabbit and nobody seems to be able to proove it

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by wannashag
the influence of alchaol,
and taking things way out of propotion by noirin
siavash telling tales and not being able to back his tales up
and even though one of my favourites freddie also lied

why lots of people are blaming karly for this i dont know,
i've never heard anyone say noirin is a rabbit and nobody seems to be able to proove it

And it may be unproveable, if it was before Live Feed time. It's not in HL episodes.

[bettiepage]

They have all come out slightly worse, even though basically everyone is shortening