[widdishins]

niamhxo,it is very likely,as we go through life we encounter people who do not like,just because of that,it does not give anyone the right to belittle and abuse....these abusers can't take it from stronger people than them,which in any language makes them bullies.....thank you for getting my drift.

[Sockhead]

Originally posted by lime
You know he say's he chases Noirin as he has nothing else to do,

How does act in the real world?

Let's say in a few months time he is unemployed sitting in mammy's sitting room ,bored and playstation is not working..he sees a pretty girl walking down the street.Does he then say to himself I have nothing else to do why don't I chase this girl.

he then approaches the girl telling her she is beautiful and that he fancies her,she laughs it off and tells him she's not interested.He continues to do this everyday for weeks asking her to give him hugs to which she tell's him he is making her feel uncomfortable.He also starts to show signs of aggression when he sees her talking to another male.

In the real world that girl would get a protection order against him to which he would most likely ignore and end up in prison.

I think this guy really needs help

I thought the exact same thing. He is a stalker and luckily for him his victim lives in the same house and cant leave. Hes creepy.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
Ok, don't kill me for being mellow-dramatic but after staying up most of Friday night watching L/F and watching the conversation Marcus & Noirin were having, It came across to me like Marcus was mentally abusing Noirin, telling her basically that every decision she made was wrong and that she was incapable of thinking for herself cos she was wrong. And that he couldn't be her friend because she didn't do what he told her to do. It just struck me that this very like an abuser beating down a person confidence to keep them in their control. Anyone agree or am I on my own in this one

I totally agree with everything you've just said, i said from day 1 i thought Marcus was a dangerous man, ie mentally abusing Noirin & Sree, was/has always putting them down, he thinks everything he says is right, i've not liked the guy since day 1, i dont trust him one bit, im so glad people are starting see what i've said since the start.

[widdishins]

lime and you have a good point,marcus is a user and destroyer of peoples confidence..a belittler of peoples points of view....can anyone guess that my encounter with my marcus type has left me bitter?

[=-Incognito-=]

So now it's mental abuse if you try to help stupid people?

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by widdishins
niamhxo,it is very likely,as we go through life we encounter people who do not like,just because of that,it does not give anyone the right to belittle and abuse....these abusers can't take it from stronger people than them,which in any language makes them bullies.....thank you for getting my drift.

Yes, I do, I mean, I don't think Noirin is great or that she's making the best decissions in there but it doesn't give Marcus the right to treat her the way he is, it's not on!

[Mac]

Originally posted by Sockhead

I thought the exact same thing. He is a stalker and luckily for him his victim lives in the same house and cant leave. Hes creepy.

Excellent post.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
So now it's mental abuse if you try to help stupid people?

What gives him the right to say that his opinions are clever and everyones elses are stupid??

[Hedgie]

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
So now it's mental abuse if you try to help stupid people?

Good point well made!
Leave em to receive their Darwin award Marcus

[setanta]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
Ok, don't kill me for being mellow-dramatic but after staying up most of Friday night watching L/F and watching the conversation Marcus & Noirin were having, It came across to me like Marcus was mentally abusing Noirin, telling her basically that every decision she made was wrong and that she was incapable of thinking for herself cos she was wrong. And that he couldn't be her friend because she didn't do what he told her to do. It just struck me that this very like an abuser beating down a person confidence to keep them in their control. Anyone agree or am I on my own in this one

He's a delusional nutjob who is far too keen on pushing his thoughts and insights onto this girl, but don't forget that he does this to everyone really. He even tried it on Tom and he just wasn't going to listen to the ramblings of a lunatic. Bea called him up on it too.

The reality is there's two idiots involved in this thing who constantly fight, withdraw and then come back to one another again when they've burnt all bridges with everyone else. They're both as culpable as each other in this little game..... both highly manipulative and I feel thats what attracts them to one another. Two nutjobs basically.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
Ok, don't kill me for being mellow-dramatic but after staying up most of Friday night watching L/F and watching the conversation Marcus & Noirin were having, It came across to me like Marcus was mentally abusing Noirin, telling her basically that every decision she made was wrong and that she was incapable of thinking for herself cos she was wrong. And that he couldn't be her friend because she didn't do what he told her to do. It just struck me that this very like an abuser beating down a person confidence to keep them in their control. Anyone agree or am I on my own in this one

No I don't agree with either.

They want each other for the wrong reasons and this is what happens.

[shrichar]

I am glad people are strarting to see Marcas for what he is a control freak

[Reply]

Originally posted by Niamhxo

I have to say, Tom was about the only one who called him up on it, when he was talking to him in jail. He was saying loads of bad things about Noirin and Tom said I thought she was your best friend in here? Why are you slating her?

That is exactly what I have been saying. When Marcus can't get his way with Noirin he goes behind her back and talks nasty about her to other people. That is what he was doing there, plus he was trying to ward off Tom from her. I was so shocked, nervous and happy when I saw Noirin and Siavash kissing because I knew that would be a slap in Marcus's face. lol good for him. He was never her friend. All he did was control her.