[WAYNEEBRUM]

Originally posted by jet
I'm a Lisa fan

i make that 3,her popularities increasing.

[jet]

Originally posted by luminoussun
try gaydar.com

Why? Do you have to be gay to like a gay person?

[AhmedFan2004]

I'm a Lisa fan; great personality, very loving, warm hearted, respectful and un-prejudiced. Is happy to be friends with all types of people and be open, respecting and honest to all types too. Unlike many others, who just run off and huddle to those in their 'category'.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
I'm a Lisa fan; great personality, very loving, warm hearted, respectful and un-prejudiced. Is happy to be friends with all types of people and be open, respecting and honest to all types too. Unlike many others, who just run off and huddle to those in their 'category'.

I can not take this post seriously.

I hope it was meant as a joke...

[jet]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
I'm a Lisa fan; great personality, very loving, warm hearted, respectful and un-prejudiced. Is happy to be friends with all types of people and be open, respecting and honest to all types too. Unlike many others, who just run off and huddle to those in their 'category'.

Well said!

[Marc]

Lisa's fans have all died... like her personality

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by VickyJ
I can not take this post seriously.

I hope it was meant as a joke...

It was dead serious. Why is it a joke? She's the least prejudiced and discriminating HM of the entire series.

She's the one HM prepared to be friends, be honest and open with all types of people.

She's made friends with pretty much all types of people on the show. She's the least racist/prejudiced/discriminating HM of the series.

Freddie and co only deal with nerds and toffs, Kris and co only deal with cool white people, Noirin only deals with attention providers, etc.

She's prepared to make friends with ANY type of person. Freddie would never do this.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

It was dead serious. Why is it a joke? She's the least prejudiced and discriminating HM of the entire series.

She's the one HM prepared to be friends, be honest and open with all types of people.

She's made friends with pretty much all types of people on the show. She's the least racist/prejudiced/discriminating HM of the series.

Freddie and co only deal with nerds and toffs, Kris and co only deal with cool white people, Noirin only deals with attention providers, etc.

She's prepared to make friends with ANY type of person. Freddie would never do this.

Yes, you have just confirmed, it a joke post.

[jet]

Originally posted by VickyJ

I can not take this post seriously.

I hope it was meant as a joke...

I think there is a lot of truth in what Ahmed said about Lisa. If she wasn't a butch lesbian she wouldn't be branded as a nasty, evil person. There are people in the house who are much nastier and more back stabbing than Lisa, but yet Lisa is everyones fav to hate cos she's an easy target. She is kind hearted; a softie with a hard shell. But few want to see that in their chosen villain of the piece.

[Beastie]

but lisa was guilty of reverse snobbery!! she didnt like freddie! and she doesnt want him to win because hes already rich!! she has a problem with posh rich people who have actually worked for their money!

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Yes, you have just confirmed, it a joke post.

Kenneth - Chinese Millionaire
Kris, Marcus - Straight Males
Karly, Sophie - Hot blondes
Charlie, David - Gay Males
Saffia - Mother
Sophia - Black Female
Sree - Indian Male
Cairon - Black Male

etc

She is the least racist and prejudiced HM of the series. She makes friends with all types.

Look at Freddie, the time a posh white middle class female comes in, he doesn't want to know anyone else.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by jet


I think there is a lot of truth in what Ahmed said about Lisa. If she wasn't a butch lesbian she wouldn't be branded as a nasty, evil person. There are people in the house who are much nastier and more back stabbing than Lisa, but yet Lisa is everyones fav to hate cos she's an easy target. She is kind hearted; a softie with a hard shell. But few want to see that in their chosen villain of the piece.

I dont care if shes a butch lesbian or not.

Fact is she was part of a group who were constantly ridiculing one housemate just for being different. So there goes half of his arguement to start with.

The only reason Ahmed likes lisa was because she was srees friend

[jet]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

It was dead serious. Why is it a joke? She's the least prejudiced and discriminating HM of the entire series.

She's the one HM prepared to be friends, be honest and open with all types of people.

She's made friends with pretty much all types of people on the show. She's the least racist/prejudiced/discriminating HM of the series.

Freddie and co only deal with nerds and toffs, Kris and co only deal with cool white people, Noirin only deals with attention providers, etc.

She's prepared to make friends with ANY type of person. Freddie would never do this.

You are spot on, Ahmed!
(Except I don't think Freddie is prejudiced either.)

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004


Look at Freddie, the time a white middle class female comes in, he doesn't want to know anyone else.

So he is racist and prejudiced because he happens to fancy someone?

[Beastie]

freddie is not prejudiced at all! he wanted to know everyone! dont you remember the first 5 weeks when lisa and that just shitted on freddie and instantly took a dislike to him! they are jealous of him because he comes from a decent background and has money! they didnt even want him to be there!!!

freddie tried his hardest to get along with them!!

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
but lisa was guilty of reverse snobbery!! she didnt like freddie! and she doesnt want him to win because hes already rich!! she has a problem with posh rich people who have actually worked for their money!

She just didn't like him because of his personality. She's the least prejudiced HM of the series.

Look at the list I posted - Wide array of types of people.

She just didn't like Freddie. Like everyone else in the house, including Siavash and Marcus too, who also nominated him in the early days.

They only teamed up for a while because they were forced too, as the outsiders/individuals.

She made friends with Kenneth, a multi-millionaire.

It's Freddie who ditches everybody, the time a posh white middle class female arrives.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

She just didn't like him because of his personality. She's the least prejudiced HM of the series.

Look at the list I posted - Wide array of types of people.

She just didn't like Freddie. Like everyone else in the house, including Siavash and Marcus too, who also nominated him in the early days.

They only teamed up for a while because they were forced too, as the outsiders/individuals.

She made friends with Kenneth, a multi-millionaire.

It's Freddie who ditches everybody, the time a posh white middle class female arrives.

Again, what is your problem with freddie fancying someone?

And how ridiculous to suggest lisa and co teamed up against freddie because they were forced to as outsiders...

The one good thing lisa has going for her is her loyalty to her friends though, she was very loyal to karly when she was evicted. I do not believe for a second she was friends with kenneth, quite the opposite infact, it seemed like she was trying to prove to karly what a dick he was by a lot of her comments. Which is a good thing.

[jet]

Originally posted by VickyJ

I dont care if shes a butch lesbian or not.

Fact is she was part of a group who were constantly ridiculing one housemate just for being different. So there goes half of his arguement to start with.

The only reason Ahmed likes lisa was because she was srees friend

Well that's not why I like her.

Have you forgotten about the group who constantly ridicule Lisa, and still do? Just because she took a dislike too one housemate doesn't mean she is evil. Don't forget, Freddiie didn't like her either. It was a mutual dislike. The Lisa hate is ridiculous, and yes, I believe if she was straight and pretty (like Sophie, who also disliked Freddie) she wouldn't be hated half as much.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by VickyJ

So he is racist and prejudiced because he happens to fancy someone?

I found it interesting that five new HMs arrive, but right from the off, he magically sticks to one like glue. He also spends time with hardly anyone else now, due to Bea. He didn't spend a single minute trying to get to know any of the other new HMs.

Siavash never liked Freddie, he only spokw to him because Freddie was lonely. They teamed up as they were forced too; loners and individuals.

Lisa kills Freddie when it comes to being totally open, un-prejudiced and friendly with all types.

Bea doesn't even treat Freddie with much respect, yet he's still her lap dog.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
freddie is not prejudiced at all! he wanted to know everyone! dont you remember the first 5 weeks when lisa and that just ******* on freddie and instantly took a dislike to him! they are jealous of him because he comes from a decent background and has money! they didnt even want him to be there!!!

freddie tried his hardest to get along with them!!

They were not jealous, that's just being delusional. Nobody gave a sh*t about his wealth, just like nobody gave a sh*t about Kenneth's wealth. He got along with them at first when he became a HM, singing in the room and eatig luxury food, etc.

They just didn't like him, for whatever reason. We don't have Live Feed, maybe 24/7 with an annoying Freddie was too much. You are playing a very unsubstantiated card here with 'wealth jealousy'.

Nobody cares about wealth. Others in the house have money, and guys like Kris/Tom pull way more hot girls than Freddie does.

Like I said, he runs off with Bea the time she arrives. He has no time for the others.

[jet]

She just didn't like Freddie. Like everyone else in the house, including Siavash and Marcus too, who also nominated him in the early days.

Exactly! How quickly people forget that most of the house were nominating Freddie for 3 weeks in a row, but unlike Lisa, who was more honest, they were nice to his face. Then when they realized he was popular on the outside, they were all over him to be friends with him. Bea made a bealine for him as soon as she was in the door.
Lisa has stayed true to herself. She is the most honest HM.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by VickyJ
And how ridiculous to suggest lisa and co teamed up against freddie because they were forced to as outsiders....

No that's what Freddie/Marcus/Siavash did, forced friendship or teamship.

Yet Siavash and Marcus voted for him in the early days, and Siavash used to enjoy socialising with Team Lisa, smoking with them and saying how he only bothers with Freddie because he's alone.

You have no evidence to suggest anyone cares about Freddie's money.

He was the loneliest person in the house and hasn't scored with one chick yet, so the money thing is obviously not working for him.

BTW I do think Lisa liked Kenneth, she's aware of the reality of modern day dating. He's a playboy.

[Beastie]

but kenneth was karlys boyfriend.. of course lisa got along with him!! he didnt stay long enough for an argument to erupt!!

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by jet

Well that's not why I like her.

Have you forgotten about the group who constantly ridicule Lisa, and still do? Just because she took a dislike too one housemate doesn't mean she is evil. Don't forget, Freddiie didn't like her either. It was a mutual dislike. The Lisa hate is ridiculous, and yes, I believe if she was straight and pretty (like Sophie, who also disliked Freddie) she wouldn't be hated half as much.

Ok then, if lisa was pretty and straight (like sophie who also disliked freddie)...Karly was pretty and straight, and part of the same group, and she was hated.

Sophie did not join in as much with the ridiculing and that is why she has got off lightly through it.

If it was just disliking then fair enough, but the 3 of them (kris, karly, lisa) made it their mission in the house to make freddies life as uncomfortable as possible, then suddenly they changed their minds and decided he was actually ok (after hearing whatever it was saying awww when freddies name was read out for nominations)

And people ridiculing lisa? What goes around comes around...

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by jet

Exactly! How quickly people forget that most of the house were nominating Freddie for 3 weeks in a row, but unlike Lisa, who was more honest, they were nice to his face. Then when they realized he was popular on the outside, they were all over him to be friends with him. Bea made a bealine for him as soon as she was in the door.
Lisa has stayed true to herself. She is the most honest HM.

Yep, she's the least prejudiced/discriminating, and least dishonest.

She confronts people to their face, makes everything open and clear, and is prepared to make friends and socialize with all categories of people.

From chinese millionaire to womanizer to gay male to black female, etc.