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InOne · 18-08-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by Jezzy
The psychology is probably the only reason I continue to watch BB. Unfortunately the producers have really screwed it up this year by meddling too much.

Sociopathic is interesting. I am not sure whether a sociopath is formed by nature or nurture, and she does display signs, like her inability to empathise. But this could equally be socialised - maybe her upbringing revolved around her being the princess, in which case it is not necessarily sociopathic, but conditioning.

Not a disagreement at all, but open for discussion....which is why the "hate" question is also so appealing.

Yeah she has alot of the features. But her Dad is a millionaire which will boost her ego further. A rich Sociopath is never good!!! I agree BB have been slack this year and not let the housemates truly become themselves. It is also interesting how this year the women absolutely clobbered the men!!! Especially Noirin!

Jezzy · 18-08-2009, 09:38 PM

Yeah, most of the men have been made to look weak this year. I think it's why Marcus keeps gaining in popularity.

I am still not convinced that it is sociopathy over total spoiledness and being sheltered from the Real World. At 24 and having been totally spoiled I may have reacted similarly that my bubble beliefs had been popped, and I certainly would have found it frightening that I could have been so HATED for it.

Norin, I think, is almost Bea's opposite in some ways, that she had to search for acceptance and it manifested in sexual acceptance. Bea approaches from the other end of the spectrum - it was a given to her that she WOULD be accepted.

Interesting stuff, and I wish it had been allowed to play out.

InOne · 18-08-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by Jezzy
Yeah, most of the men have been made to look weak this year. I think it's why Marcus keeps gaining in popularity.

I am still not convinced that it is sociopathy over total spoiledness and being sheltered from the Real World. At 24 and having been totally spoiled I may have reacted similarly that my bubble beliefs had been popped, and I certainly would have found it frightening that I could have been so HATED for it.

Norin, I think, is almost Bea's opposite in some ways, that she had to search for acceptance and it manifested in sexual acceptance. Bea approaches from the other end of the spectrum - it was a given to her that she WOULD be accepted.

Interesting stuff, and I wish it had been allowed to play out.

Yeah iv'e heard that where Bea lives there are alot of girls like her. Not sure if they are that malicious. Noirin just like the attention really, but she was a player and did think alot of herself. She was not that good looking imo.

famguy · 18-08-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by BigBrotherFan01
You cant hate someone you have never met. ITS JUST A SHOW people!

I've never met Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein but I'm pretty sure I hate them and maybe hate is a strong word for a contestant,albeit an evil bitch of a one, on a game show, but I certainly detest the woman and all her attention grabbing antics. Really, how upset and offended can one person be about so much that ultimately means so very little?

InOne · 18-08-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by famguy

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Originally posted by BigBrotherFan01
You cant hate someone you have never met. ITS JUST A SHOW people!

I've never met Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein but I'm pretty sure I hate them and maybe hate is a strong word for a contestant,albeit an evil bitch of a one, on a game show, but I certainly detest the woman and all her attention grabbing antics. Really, how upset and offended can one person be about so much that ultimately means so very little?

I wonder if she actually thinks she is going to get the sympathy vote of the public lol

Jezzy · 18-08-2009, 09:46 PM

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maybe hate is a strong word for a contestant,albeit an evil bitch of a one, on a game show, but I certainly detest the woman and all her attention grabbing antics. Really, how upset and offended can one person be about so much that ultimately means so very little?

I think this is the crux of the topic. If it means so little, how can anyone use a word as powerful as hate?

famguy · 18-08-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by Jezzy
The psychology is probably the only reason I continue to watch BB. Unfortunately the producers have really screwed it up this year by meddling too much.

Sociopathic is interesting. I am not sure whether a sociopath is formed by nature or nurture, and she does display signs, like her inability to empathise. But this could equally be socialised - maybe her upbringing revolved around her being the princess, in which case it is not necessarily sociopathic, but conditioning.

Not a disagreement at all, but open for discussion....which is why the "hate" question is also so appealing.

Not sure I see it as learned behaviour as if it was, presumably her mother or siblings would have appeared on the hologram to give their blessing to her performances thus far. Hate is a strong word for any human being, of course there are notable exceptions(see previous post) but I don't think she carries that mantle just yet. Still three days to go though lol

InOne · 18-08-2009, 09:52 PM

Nobody can hate her, she is a tv villain, her emotions are about as real as the BB studio. Like Marcus said everything is magnified 10x in there.

Jezzy · 18-08-2009, 10:16 PM

If I truly, truly *hated* someone....and by that, I mean if someone killed a member of my family, or were bent on destroying them - then I would have no compunction about taking them out of this world forever. That is how strong HATE is to me.

So InOne's last comment should put things into perspective. It's a ****ing TV show for goodness' sake.

Won't get through to the people that meet her on the street though.

InOne · 18-08-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by Jezzy
If I truly, truly *hated* someone....and by that, I mean if someone killed a member of my family, or were bent on destroying them - then I would have no compunction about taking them out of this world forever. That is how strong HATE is to me.

So InOne's last comment should put things into perspective. It's a ****ing TV show for goodness' sake.

Won't get through to the people that meet her on the street though.

Yep, plenty of idiots out there looking for a fight.

bansheewails · 18-08-2009, 10:30 PM

I saw Kiefer Sutherland in a pub once and didn't approach him, and I like him! I can't image wasting my time on someone I can't even watch on TV without putting mute on, nevermind approaching them to hassle them about a reality TV show!

I cannot image shouting or abusing a person I have never met before about something they said on TV!

InOne · 18-08-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by bansheewails
I saw Kiefer Sutherland in a pub once and didn't approach him, and I like him! I can't image wasting my time on someone I can't even watch on TV without putting mute on, nevermind approaching them to hassle them about a reality TV show!

I cannot image shouting or abusing a person I have never met before about something they said on TV!

You are a decent person that is why!!! But people who hardly watched it will go for her I think. Especially girls, I bet the stories will start coming when she is evitced or leaves.

bansheewails · 18-08-2009, 10:43 PM

I would rather ignore someone I didn't like than give them the satisfaction of me knowing who they are!

I can hate the Bullying witches that were at school with me (i wasn't bullied but a friend was)! I would remind them of it now if I saw them (and have done to one of them!

But a Mouthy Witch on TV, her I would ignore!

Jezzy · 18-08-2009, 10:46 PM

Twould hurt the bullies far much more to be ignored, I think.

InOne · 18-08-2009, 10:46 PM

Yeah I think the whole nation shunning her would be alot worse than being beaten up.

bansheewails · 18-08-2009, 10:47 PM

Now that would be an eviction worth watching! If she came out to hundreds of people who were silent! Filing their nails, texting and taking photo's of each other not her!

Jezzy · 18-08-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by bansheewails
Now that would be an eviction worth watching! If she came out to hundreds of people who were silent! Filing their nails, texting and taking photo's of each other not her!

Can you just imagine? It would be lovely if Friday's audience were instructed to do just that.