[lucifer1968]

in last nights LF Charlie was saying that he wanted to have children.and he also said he wanted them when he's still young how does he intend to have children if he's GAY

have i missed something

Youtube video

[BB22]

Gay men are physically capable of having sexual intercourse with women. They can also provide sperm for insemination.

I don't really see what the problem is. It is becoming much more common.

[calyman]

Yes, your not aware there are many Gay Parents in Britain today.

[flyny]

yeah he loves cock

[lucifer1968]

Originally posted by calyman
Yes, your not aware there are many Gay Parents in Britain today.

so you think he should get a girl pregnant just so he can have children that end up on jeremy kyle

[BlackOrWhite]

Wow, this post shows how narrow-minded some people really are.

[lucifer1968]

Originally posted by BlackOrWhite
Wow, this post shows how narrow-minded some people really are.

so what ( moral ) way is he going to get his two children?. he wants a boy first then a girl. should he pop down the shop and buy them

[BB22]

I have already identified two ways. I still don't see what the problem is.

[lucifer1968]

Originally posted by BB22
I have already identified two ways. I still don't see what the problem is.

having sexual intercourse with women
provide sperm for insemination.

i said moral way

[Harry!]

I'm afraid men cannot produce babies on there own. A female is needed in the use of sexual intercourse. Just plain sciene.

[BB22]

Originally posted by lucifer1968

having sexual intercourse with women
provide sperm for insemination.

i said moral way

You think having sex and using insemination techniques is "immoral"?

[lucifer1968]

Originally posted by BB22

You think having sex and using insemination techniques is "immoral"?

for a gay male to use insemination techniques to fetch a child into the worldYES

[BB22]

Originally posted by lucifer1968

for a gay male to use insemination techniques to fetch a child into the worldYES

What about a heterosexual couple using artificial insemination techniques if they cannot conceive normally?

[DrunkerThanMoses]

hes retarded maybe he thinks men can give birth?

[lucifer1968]

Originally posted by BB22

What about a heterosexual couple using artificial insemination techniques if they cannot conceive normally?

that's the moral way

[BB22]

Originally posted by lucifer1968

that's the moral way

So the problem you have with it is the homosexuality, rather than the methods.

[lucifer1968]

Originally posted by BB22

So the problem you have with it is the homosexuality, rather than the methods.

it's your ****ed up way of thinking that's destroying society

[Harry!]

Why cant men look after babies. Would you be the same if it was 2 women?

[BB22]

Originally posted by lucifer1968

it's your ****** up way of thinking that's destroying society

Curious. Up until this point we have merely been discussing what it is you think. And up to this point I have made no explicit moral judgement on anything. I fail to see why you have suddenly become annoyed.

We have established through a kind of Socratic discourse that you have no moral objection to heterosexual couples using insemination techniques but that you do have a moral objection to homosexuals employing such techniques. It would seem to follow from that that the source of your objection is the homosexuality rather than the methods used. This is just elementary reasoning at present.

[BlackOrWhite]

Originally posted by lucifer1968

so what ( moral ) way is he going to get his two children?. he wants a boy first then a girl. should he pop down the shop and buy them

Adoption, Fostering, Artificial Insemination. You're either about 8 years old, an idiot or a wind-up merchant. I'm going for the latter.

[mizzy25]

adoption, surrogacy to name but two.

[lucifer1968]

Originally posted by BB22

Curious. Up until this point we have merely been discussing what it is you think. And up to this point I have made no explicit moral judgement on anything. I fail to see why you have suddenly become annoyed.

it's your moral judgement that's getting me annoyed.you seem to be saying that it's ok for him to go get a girl pregnant or use insemination techniques just to get a child. i have no problem with his sexuality but if he's GAY then he shouldn't expect to have children. unless he was adopting

[BlackOrWhite]

Originally posted by lucifer1968
it's your moral judgement that's getting me annoyed.you seem to be saying that it's ok for him to go get a girl pregnant or use insemination techniques just to get a child. i have no problem with his sexuality but if he's GAY then he shouldn't expect to have children. unless he was adopting

Seriously, are you an idiot? Before, you was confused about HOW he'd get a child and you don't want him to get one through insemination, he must adopt. What a load of b*llocks. Moral implications are there for the few with tunnel vision that refuse to see an open world. Don't know if you've heard of this... free will!

[BB22]

Originally posted by lucifer1968

it's your moral judgement that's getting me annoyed.you seem to be saying that it's ok for him to go get a girl pregnant or use insemination techniques just to get a child. i have no problem with his sexuality but if he's GAY then he shouldn't expect to have children. unless he was adopting

Actually I had made no moral judgement on any matter in any of my posts, as anyone who reads this thread can freely observe. As I pointed out, we were discussing what it is you think on the matter and I was asking a series of questions to clarify your position precisely.

Now, let's move on with that.

What is the difference, do you think, between a heterosexual couple conceiving "just to get a child", and, for example, a couple consisting of two homosexual males enlisting the assistance of a happy and willing female surrogate in order to have a child?

[Nigeria_Bob]

He did say he would like to do charity work in Africa… perhaps he would nab one on the way back.