[dbfs]

Yet not a word has been said to Charlie or Sophie about going in his drawer and stealing his lager - how can they possibly justify that one. And poor show for David for not saying so - he should be man (sorry about the punn) enough to turn round and say something about BB having a go at him about the tea but ignoring this. I think sophie is putting on an act now making out she is the thick blonde going through the motions reference countries etc remind you of anyone? Both her and charlie should be put up this week for stealing and it was stealing it was not theres to take - they share the alcohol out fairly and marcus is entitled to his whether he wants t drink it then or not - and her only way to justify herself was to pull apart his appearance and slag him off not a hint of i'm sorry- i'm glad my daughter is nothing like her.

[Zien]

Originally posted by dbfs
Yet not a word has been said to Charlie or Sophie about going in his drawer and stealing his lager - how can they possibly justify that one. And poor show for David for not saying so - he should be man (sorry about the punn) enough to turn round and say something about BB having a go at him about the tea but ignoring this. I think sophie is putting on an act now making out she is the thick blonde going through the motions reference countries etc remind you of anyone? Both her and charlie should be put up this week for stealing and it was stealing it was not theres to take - they share the alcohol out fairly and marcus is entitled to his whether he wants t drink it then or not - and her only way to justify herself was to pull apart his appearance and slag him off not a hint of i'm sorry- i'm glad my daughter is nothing like her.

OMG do you realise its a game show, they are all bored out of their minds, they have little to do other than mess around. Did you know capital punishment is no longer an option in the UK so I am afraid the "offenders" will have to live

[Kazanne]

Originally posted by Zien

OMG do you realise its a game show, they are all bored out of their minds, they have little to do other than mess around. Did you know capital punishment is no longer an option in the UK so I am afraid the "offenders" will have to live

dbfs ,was merely pointing out the apparent unfairness of the GAME,just because you love Sophie and her pap,paps,don't let it blind you to the facts,you would do well to remember your comment"It's a game show'just look at some of your posts.

[NONESHALLPASS]

Originally posted by dbfs
Yet not a word has been said to Charlie or Sophie about going in his drawer and stealing his lager - how can they possibly justify that one. And poor show for David for not saying so - he should be man (sorry about the punn) enough to turn round and say something about BB having a go at him about the tea but ignoring this. I think sophie is putting on an act now making out she is the thick blonde going through the motions reference countries etc remind you of anyone? Both her and charlie should be put up this week for stealing and it was stealing it was not theres to take - they share the alcohol out fairly and marcus is entitled to his whether he wants t drink it then or not - and her only way to justify herself was to pull apart his appearance and slag him off not a hint of i'm sorry- i'm glad my daughter is nothing like her.

Its double standards thats why, there is no difference in what david did to what sophie and charlie have done absolutely no difference and the worse thing is sophie and charlie have done it numerous times as well.
David was made to feel bad for what he did and rightly so, but the golden girl and golden boy get away with it everytime.
All you will get in reply from charlie and sophie fans however is what your first reply was attacking you for being over dramatic etc
But notice how they never answer your question, I think thats because they have no real defence so try either making a joke of it or turning it on you much the same as the way sophie turned what she did onto marcus.
Peas in a pod and all that right ??

[Zien]

Originally posted by kazanne

dbfs ,was merely pointing out the apparent unfairness of the GAME,just because you love Sophie and her pap,paps,don't let it blind you to the facts,you would do well to remember your comment"It's a game show'just look at some of your posts.

[The_Long_Run]

The removal of the Tea was a bullying tactic employed against a vulnerable individual who I guess resident psychologists had told the BB producers was being adversely affected. Note BB asked David, who was an innocent pawn in the theft, to reflectupon his actions and ask himself what the impact upon Freddie would be.

The removal of the alcohol was an act of self defence against an oppressiv HM. You may know the story of Brer Rabbit? Marcus goaded HMs into taking a principled stand against an individual who was taunting them.

Marcus had no use for the alcohol except as an object of oppression.

Totally and morally different circumstances.

[dbfs]

Im not even going to try and justify what I said because ziens comment justifys everything I have said

[Zien]

Originally posted by dbfs
Im not even going to try and justify what I said because ziens comment justifys everything I have said

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
The removal of the Tea was a bullying tactic employed against a vulnerable individual who I guess resident psychologists had told the BB producers was being adversely affected. Note BB asked David, who was an innocent pawn in the theft, to reflectupon his actions and ask himself what the impact upon Freddie would be.

The removal of the alcohol was an act of self defence against an oppressiv HM. You may know the story of Brer Rabbit? Marcus goaded HMs into taking a principled stand against an individual who was taunting them.

Marcus had no use for the alcohol except as an object of oppression.

Totally and morally different circumstances.

completely agree!!

[Lee.]

Originally posted by kisywisy

completely agree!!

Off topic, I know, but I take it there is still no sign of baby?? COuntdown to the final now... she'll need to get a move on!

[hennessy]

Originally posted by kisywisy

completely agree!!

So that's ok then?
I can steal my friends Ps3 because he's not using it?
right

[JTM45]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
The removal of the alcohol was an act of self defence against an oppressiv HM. You may know the story of Brer Rabbit? Marcus goaded HMs into taking a principled stand against an individual who was taunting them.

Marcus had no use for the alcohol except as an object of oppression.

That's the biggest pile of SH*T i've ever seen posted on these forums.

"Self Defence", "object of opression"

Well, you gave me something to laugh at if nothing else.
I'll have to bookmark this post to use whenever i need a really good laugh at a really idiotic post!!!!

[Addy]

Stealing is stealing, there is no way around it. All the oppression, boredom, gameshow is all just excuses. You take something that is not yours whether the person was going to use it or it does not come into it at all. The main premise is you dont need to steal it to get it, you can ask for it and whether Marcus or whoever refuses to give then you have a right to say its oppression but if they steal it, there is no defense for it to make it right!

I dont understand why people these days are justifying STEALING!!!!!!!

eg if you get robbed of something you dont need... its a crime nonetheless! ENDOF!

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by hennessy

So that's ok then?
I can steal my friends Ps3 because he's not using it?
right

Yes this seems to be the general opinion of some

[hennessy]

Originally posted by JTM45

That's the biggest pile of SH*T i've ever seen posted on these forums.

"Self Defence", "object of opression"

Well, you gave me something to laugh at if nothing else.
I'll have to bookmark this post to use whenever i need a really good laugh at a really idiotic post!!!!

Is the Queen using the Crown Jewels? Is that objects of oppression? Or Cartiers which mock me when I walk down Sloane St, Can I liberate them because someone is hoarding them??

[JTM45]

" Oh look! There's someone driving a Ferarri past me. He's clearly using it as an object of oppression to taunt me so i'd be justified in stealing it off him".


I really have heard it all now!

[freesias]

Originally posted by VickyJ

Yes this seems to be the general opinion of some

[Shasown]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
The removal of the Tea was a bullying tactic employed against a vulnerable individual who I guess resident psychologists had told the BB producers was being adversely affected. Note BB asked David, who was an innocent pawn in the theft, to reflectupon his actions and ask himself what the impact upon Freddie would be.

The removal of the alcohol was an act of self defence against an oppressiv HM. You may know the story of Brer Rabbit? Marcus goaded HMs into taking a principled stand against an individual who was taunting them.

Marcus had no use for the alcohol except as an object of oppression.

Totally and morally different circumstances.

I am so glad that you live nowhere near me, if you really believe that. I can say you are in for some great holidays at Her majesty's Pleasure if you follow that credo during your life.

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by hennessy

So that's ok then?
I can steal my friends Ps3 because he's not using it?
right

Of course not, you live in a society outside the house! Different rules.

[hennessy]

Originally posted by Shasown

I am so glad that you live nowhere near me, if you really believe that. I can say you are in for some great holidays at Her majesty's Pleasure if you follow that credo during your life.

I can see a scouser using that in his defence in court
j/k

ps what are the rules now? You seem to know them well

[freesias]

Originally posted by dbfs
Yet not a word has been said to Charlie or Sophie about going in his drawer and stealing his lager - how can they possibly justify that one. And poor show for David for not saying so - he should be man (sorry about the punn) enough to turn round and say something about BB having a go at him about the tea but ignoring this. I think sophie is putting on an act now making out she is the thick blonde going through the motions reference countries etc remind you of anyone? Both her and charlie should be put up this week for stealing and it was stealing it was not theres to take - they share the alcohol out fairly and marcus is entitled to his whether he wants t drink it then or not - and her only way to justify herself was to pull apart his appearance and slag him off not a hint of i'm sorry- i'm glad my daughter is nothing like her.

is it a bb tactic?

David may get himself a few more sympathy vote....

[Cybele]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

Of course not, you live in a society outside the house! Different rules.

Do you honestly believe some of the sh*te you write here or is your purpose just to wind people up? Given that you are currently over 20 negative on your kharma, it might be the latter.

Marcus an oppressive housemate? Really? Let me remind you of the definition of oppression:

op·pres·sion
Function: noun
unjust or cruel exercise of authority or power

I have never seen Marcus be cruel or unjust. And he certainly isn't in a position of authority or power in the house. So your statment is nothing but rubbish.

Marcus has cans of Lager and Cider which are rightfully his and trades them with the other housemates for things he likes. Sometimes he also just gives them away. How it is EVER alright to steal something from someone else? I don't care if you are in the big brother house or not. It is STEALING. The people who take them are THIEVES. The only change of rules is that inside the BB house, Marcus has little recourse. If he was in the outside world, he would have avenues of retribution or repayment.

I'm sure if Marcus had taken something from Charlie instead of the other way around, you would be calling for his head. Everything Charlie does is perfect everything anyone else does is flawed. What WILL you do when this series is over?

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by Addy
Stealing is stealing, there is no way around it. All the oppression, boredom, gameshow is all just excuses. You take something that is not yours whether the person was going to use it or it does not come into it at all. The main premise is you dont need to steal it to get it, you can ask for it and whether Marcus or whoever refuses to give then you have a right to say its oppression but if they steal it, there is no defense for it to make it right!

I dont understand why people these days are justifying STEALING!!!!!!!

eg if you get robbed of something you dont need... its a crime nonetheless! ENDOF!

Lets look at some examples shall we? The Eastern Bloc. All private property rights were expunged. The State laws said that people could have use of land to produce goods that were shared. Previous land owners, had no rights over the land. There was no crime, but their land had been taken from them as it was used as a tool of oppression to exert control over the labouring classes.

In Spain, the law allows the taking away of property for the greater social good, without compensation.

English property rights all derive from the Common Law imposed by the Norman Conqerors. Before William the Conqueror arrived, land was held in village communities by the indigenous population.

William the Conqueror gave the land to his Lords. Was it his to give? Everyone who buys property now is handling stolen goods.

As Sophie said of Marcus, "Who is he to....." She does not see herself as subservient to this self appointed Lord of the Manor and so rises up against him to liberate the alcohol for community use. It would only be from him that alcohol would be liberated as he is using it as an entirely different sort of commodity from anyone else.

[Cybele]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

Lets look at some examples shall we? The Eastern Bloc. All private property rights were expunged. The State laws said that people could have use of land to produce goods that were shared. Previous land owners, had no rights over the land. There was no crime, but their land had been taken from them as it was used as a tool of oppression to exert control over the labouring classes.

In Spain, the law allows the taking away of property for the greater social good, without compensation.

English property rights all derive from the Common Law imposed by the Norman Conqerors. Before William the Conqueror arrived, land was held in village communities by the indigenous population.

William the Conqueror gave the land to his Lords. Was it his to give? Everyone who buys property now is handling stolen goods.

As Sophie said of Marcus, "Who is he to....." She does not see herself as subservient to this self appointed Lord of the Manor and so rises up against him to liberate the alcohol for community use. It would only be from him that alcohol would be liberated as he is using it as an entirely different sort of commodity from anyone else.

Um... you are REALLY reaching if you have to bring up situations which occurred hundreds of years ago and societies that switched to communism to justify stealing. Why not address it as it exists RIGHT NOW in BRITAIN! It is called STEALING! THEFT! And really, using Sophie as a source of what is correct? The woman thought catfish was a type of cat food! She thought France was IRAN, for crying out loud.

[BB22]

I think the issue is much, much simpler and analyses of property rights shed no light on the situation at all, to be honest.

Freddie was in a vulnerable state and Big Brother was concerned about that and wanted to draw it to David's attention.

On the other hand, Big Brother probably thinks Marcus is big enough and ugly enough to handle the situation himself.

It is as simple as that, from what I can see.