[freesias]

[rquote=2518887&tid=145491&author=angus58][rquote=2518806&tid=145491&author=kisywisy]how can a hm 'deserve' to win?? she's entertained us throughout the show as much as the rest of the finalists. they all have flaws like normal people[/rquote]

I'm sorry, but I really cannot think of a single thing she has done in the house that I have found entertaining or interesting. However, I am aware that other people think differently, they must do to want her to win.[/rquote]

yes, the ones who have different priorities....

people with similar lifestyles perhaps.....

[BBfanDAZ]

One more remark like that and you will be banned! - ukturtle

[Angus]

[rquote=2518090&tid=145491&author=headaball][rquote=2518055&tid=145491&author=angus58][rquote=2518039&tid=145491&author=headaball]It's a bit late for dirty tactics. She's got it in the bag.[/rquote]

I wasn't aware that stating the truth was "dirty tactics"[/rquote]

It is dirty tactics. There's no need for these type of threads as it's a vote to win not evict, people should be trying to get support for their favourite, in your case Siavash. [/rquote]


Do you not understand campaigning? The opposition points out the weaknesses and faults of their opponents, and in Sophie's case there are many and all of them true, documented and in the public forum. Dirty tactics is where the opposition invent or fabricate things in order to gain an advantage.

I didn't have to do that with Sophie, everything I have stated is the truth, and what I have seen her do and heard her say, along with every other viewer of the show.

[kistar]

[rquote=2518894&tid=145491&author=kisywisy][rquote=2518843&tid=145491&author=kistar][rquote=2518806&tid=145491&author=kisywisy]how can a hm 'deserve' to win?? she's entertained us throughout the show as much as the rest of the finalists. they all have flaws like normal people[/rquote]

because of what she represents and especially being so young to have appeared in playboy what was her mother thinking. and her work is in the sex industry ,shes on there to promote her career nothing more I would rather David win he loves being there and theres no hidden agenda[/rquote]

so we have not to judge the hm on the way they have been ON the show, we've to vote on their lives OUTSIDE?? ummm, yeah THAT makes perfect sense

and by the way, i would prefer david to win because i think he's the most genuine and loves being there also. [/rquote]

I think the reason they are there is quite important and I dont think shes there for the right reasons, she had an agent before she went in who no doubt told her to have a relationship if possible ,when Cairon was there and showing her some interest she said she liked skinny black men with tattoos , but kris made a move first and so she got with him its all a bit staged in my opinion

[kistar]

[rquote=2518969&tid=145491&author=BBfanDAZ] Insult removed [/rquote]


this is sophies fan base ???

[Becker]

So no one is going to defend her actions? No surprises there then.

[kisywisy]

[rquote=2518878&tid=145491&author=Becker]People deserve to win things on merit. That is usually the way of things. As far as the accusations levelled against her are concerned why then has no one refuted them? Why hasn't anyone defended her except to say 'SOPHIE TO WIN' ?

The simple answer is she has no defense and everyone here knows it. Some just won't admit it.

In my opinion the original post has it pretty much spot on.[/rquote]

to start with, i'm not a sophie fan but i will defend her against the OP

Got jiggy with the hateful Kris and was in sheep mode around Lisa and the other sheep, repeating same nominations and reasons verbatim in the diary room. she fancied kris. just coz we knew he was a dick, doesn't mean she did. she has said herself that she lied about having sex with kris to get the gossip from noirin. she liked lisa, as did a lot of hm. calling them 'sheep' is hardly your opinion. it was freddie and marcus' that you have repeated. are you also a 'sheep'??

Ridiculed Freddie because of his "annoying"habits yet slurps food noisily herself, farts and burps, falls down drunk showing her minge and arse, and was a fully paid up member of the bully team who, in the early day, also bullied Angel and Siavash (remember them taking the p**s out of his fashion and style)? do you not realise the hypocrisy of this statement?? you are picking faults with HER annoying habits, when i'm 100% certain you have a lot yourself (like the rest of the world). if it's ok for you list sophie's burping/farting/eating habits, why can she not do the same?? she did not bully angel and as for dissing siavash's style, she and him have spoken openly about it. they slag each other off all the time

Laughed along with Bea when she was bullying Freddie, and at Freddie's distress,saying he should be in a straight jacket banging his head against a wall. i agree this was a horrible statement to make, but she is entitled to her opinion

Flashes her fake tits with flesh spilling out all over the place, and then complained that Marcus was a perve. She then boasts she had sex with Kris on tv and backtracked fast when she saw the mag deals disappearing. she doesn't 'flash' her tits. she's kept them covered the whole time in the house, other than whilst sunbathing (like the rest of the females in the house, other than hira). marcus was a perv. he said quite a few things that were disgusting regarding the female hm in the house. she has already said that the only reason she said she slept with kris was to get the gossip from noirin. how could she possibly read those magazines and think that the mag deals were disappearing?? if anything, it would do the opposite to be seen as a bb couple and to have had sex on a tv show, yet she has chosen to split with kris

Goes into other people's drawers and steals cider. When called out, goes into the diary room to complain about the person she has robbed. yeah she has stolen cider. it's hardly the worst crime in the world. they were in the house and given stupid amounts of drink for parties. marcus didn't drink them and stashed them away to use to barter with so he had power to get what he wanted for them. if she'd just fallen out with someone in the house, of course she'd moan about them in the diary room. she's hardly going to be singing their praises, is she?? even if she was in the wrong

Constantly picks the hair off her head, so she looks like a balding Jimmy Crankie without her slap on. her extentions are falling out and have ruined her hair. what else is she supposed to do?? she can't have them fixed til she's out the house. she doesn't feel the need to have make up on all the time, even thought she knows she looks terrible. if she had make up on all the time she would be slated for that (like karly was). for an aspriring model to be seen as her worst on a national tv show, it's very brave of her. it could hamper future work, but she doesn't seem to care and would prefer to be 'real'



Feel free to add to the list.
(puts hard hat on and takes cover)

[kisywisy]

[rquote=2519020&tid=145491&author=kistar][rquote=2518894&tid=145491&author=kisywisy][rquote=2518843&tid=145491&author=kistar][rquote=2518806&tid=145491&author=kisywisy]how can a hm 'deserve' to win?? she's entertained us throughout the show as much as the rest of the finalists. they all have flaws like normal people[/rquote]

because of what she represents and especially being so young to have appeared in playboy what was her mother thinking. and her work is in the sex industry ,shes on there to promote her career nothing more I would rather David win he loves being there and theres no hidden agenda[/rquote]

so we have not to judge the hm on the way they have been ON the show, we've to vote on their lives OUTSIDE?? ummm, yeah THAT makes perfect sense

and by the way, i would prefer david to win because i think he's the most genuine and loves being there also. [/rquote]

I think the reason they are there is quite important and I dont think shes there for the right reasons, she had an agent before she went in who no doubt told her to have a relationship if possible ,when Cairon was there and showing her some interest she said she liked skinny black men with tattoos , but kris made a move first and so she got with him its all a bit staged in my opinion [/rquote]

i think kris was more fake with the relationship than sophie was. he was always looking for the camera etc. i think sophie liked him (more fool her) and he was the one chasing mag deals

i don't think you can accuratly judge anyone's reasons for going into the house. not one of them are going to admit it's to be famous or boost their career in some way, so you don't really know what their REAL reasons are. sophie hasn't gone on and said that everyone should be a glamour model/porn star or campaigned for the industry either. she just happens to be involved in it on the outside. now i think about it, what should their reasons be??

[kisywisy]

[rquote=2518909&tid=145491&author=freesias][rquote=2518887&tid=145491&author=angus58][rquote=2518806&tid=145491&author=kisywisy]how can a hm 'deserve' to win?? she's entertained us throughout the show as much as the rest of the finalists. they all have flaws like normal people[/rquote]

I'm sorry, but I really cannot think of a single thing she has done in the house that I have found entertaining or interesting. However, I am aware that other people think differently, they must do to want her to win.[/rquote]

yes, the ones who have different priorities....

people with similar lifestyles perhaps.....[/rquote]

that's a bit of a sweeping statement. maybe she has fans because they have looked past the outward appearance of sophie and like her personality?? not all bb viewers are shallow

[sg160187]

[rquote=2519093&tid=145491&author=kisywisy
Ridiculed Freddie because of his "annoying"habits yet slurps food noisily herself, farts and burps, falls down drunk showing her minge and arse, and was a fully paid up member of the bully team who, in the early day, also bullied Angel and Siavash (remember them taking the p**s out of his fashion and style)? do you not realise the hypocrisy of this statement?? you are picking faults with HER annoying habits, when i'm 100% certain you have a lot yourself (like the rest of the world). if it's ok for you list sophie's burping/farting/eating habits, why can she not do the same?? she did not bully angel and as for dissing siavash's style, she and him have spoken openly about it. they slag each other off all the time

[/rquote]

I think the OP is refering to the way SOPHIE was being a hypocrite over the way she was horrible to freddie over 'his' annoying faults when 'she' has many herself.

[Beastie]

i hope the housemates we have in the final for bb10 doesnt end up in a resulted axe of bb11!

[kisywisy]

[rquote=2519220&tid=145491&author=sg160187][rquote=2519093&tid=145491&author=kisywisy
Ridiculed Freddie because of his "annoying"habits yet slurps food noisily herself, farts and burps, falls down drunk showing her minge and arse, and was a fully paid up member of the bully team who, in the early day, also bullied Angel and Siavash (remember them taking the p**s out of his fashion and style)? do you not realise the hypocrisy of this statement?? you are picking faults with HER annoying habits, when i'm 100% certain you have a lot yourself (like the rest of the world). if it's ok for you list sophie's burping/farting/eating habits, why can she not do the same?? she did not bully angel and as for dissing siavash's style, she and him have spoken openly about it. they slag each other off all the time

[/rquote]

I think the OP is refering to the way SOPHIE was being a hypocrite over the way she was horrible to freddie over 'his' annoying faults when 'she' has many herself.[/rquote]

but that in it's self is being a hypocrite lol

my point is that everyone finds other peoples habits annoying when we have annoying habits ourselves, so we can hardly moan about her doing the same

[Becker]

Still havn't seen any defense except for personal attacks on people making posts. I found it laughable that in one breath someone says ...

Laughed along with Bea when she was bullying Freddie, and at Freddie's distress,saying he should be in a straight jacket banging his head against a wall. i agree this was a horrible statement to make, but she is entitled to her opinion

So what you are saying is people can be nasty to other people ... even though it is horrible ... because they are entitled to their opinion. Epic Fail

[whatever02]

[rquote=2518007&tid=145491&author=angus58]Got jiggy with the hateful Kris and was in sheep mode around Lisa and the other sheep, repeating same nominations and reasons verbatim in the diary room.

Ridiculed Freddie because of his "annoying"habits yet slurps food noisily herself, farts and burps, falls down drunk showing her minge and arse, and was a fully paid up member of the bully team who, in the early day, also bullied Angel and Siavash (remember them taking the p**s out of his fashion and style)?

Laughed along with Bea when she was bullying Freddie, and at Freddie's distress,saying he should be in a straight jacket banging his head against a wall.

Flashes her fake tits with flesh spilling out all over the place, and then complained that Marcus was a perve. She then boasts she had sex with Kris on tv and backtracked fast when she saw the mag deals disappearing.

Goes into other people's drawers and steals cider. When called out, goes into the diary room to complain about the person she has robbed.

Constantly picks the hair off her head, so she looks like a balding Jimmy Crankie without her slap on.



Feel free to add to the list.
(puts hard hat on and takes cover)


[/rquote]


i like sophie

but i agree with you

she should not win

[boomoo]

I think Sophie was earmarked to win before she even entered BB,

Linking up with a likely lad for photo shoots. Lets see if she keeps her word and refuses to be snapped with Kris.

Sophie was one of the quiet instigators of nastiness toward Freddie. Even when it could have all died down she dragged it up requesting him to repeat his catch phrases and laughing and sniggering at him.

Weeks ago I made the point that while the men were losing weight she was putting it on because she took whatever she wanted no matter who it belonged to. When rows erupted she played dumb and let someone else be blamed.

She may play dumb when it suits but she is actually very aware of social situations. She has however recognised that Siewash was a decent person and she has never nominated him.
She did go up one step in my opinion when she called Marcus out over his crudeness.

She is not a worthy winner. If it was not that BB was so against Siewash I think he could have won.

[Twiggy]

[rquote=2518324&tid=145491&author=k1ck3m0n][rquote=2518299&tid=145491&author=Twiggy][rquote=2518248&tid=145491&author=k1ck3m0n]OP, you're correct in all that you point out in your initial thread, and I agree the HL show and the "task" re Day 50 showed the most appalling and blatant bias. Of those left, I'd rather see Siavash win, tho I'm resigned to it being Sophie. As I posted elsewhere:
the glorification of Sophie's utter stupidity and complete lack of knowledge on almost any subject is more than I can stomach. Whether she's really that thick or faking it to be popular like Jade/Brian et al, who knows, but either way, I think it's a damning indictment of our society that someone that stupid, should be the best we can pick as a winner. She's just a daft wee lassie who thinks playing dumb, getting huge fake boobs, dying her hair and getting awful extensions is her best way forward in life. Sad on so many levels. I'm not saying she's not a nice girl, most of the time she is (tho she hasn't always been), and I don't hate her or anything like that. I just despair, that this year, big brother has held a mirror up to our society, and the reflection is all too accurate if Sophie is our winner. Already more and more young girls think that the way to fame and fortune is butchering their bodies and changing their appearance to that of a Barbie doll. No need for them to try hard at school, or stick in with their studies, no no, dumb is good! Sophie wining will only reinforce that idea. Too sad. [/rquote]Having knowledge doesn't make the nicest people.[/rquote]
That was NOT my point! Did you even READ my post???? And why should "nice" win anyway??? Sophie, as OP pointed out, has hardly been a paragon of "nice" has she????[/rquote]Yes I read your post, I wouldn't have replied if I hadn't. And yes I think Sophie has been nice, probably the nicest person in there but not my favourite.

[kisywisy]

[rquote=2519320&tid=145491&author=Becker]Still havn't seen any defense except for personal attacks on people making posts. I found it laughable that in one breath someone says ...

Laughed along with Bea when she was bullying Freddie, and at Freddie's distress,saying he should be in a straight jacket banging his head against a wall. i agree this was a horrible statement to make, but she is entitled to her opinion

So what you are saying is people can be nasty to other people ... even though it is horrible ... because they are entitled to their opinion. Epic Fail[/rquote]

so you are saying that it's ok for you to be nasty about a hm because it is you opinion, but not ok for a hm to do the same?? your agument is flawed


and as for your first point, there were no personal attacks in my post.

you asked for someone to defend sophie and i did