[Captain.Remy]

[rquote=2568213&tid=147573&author=-BB~Jordan-]

The thread isnt total m opinion, alot of it is fact, Marcus made both good and bad Tv, and Freddie did not play no victim card or whatever bad cr*p thats being made up. [/rquote]

Not a fact at all.

[Jords]

[rquote=2568233&tid=147573&author=Captain.Remy][rquote=2568213&tid=147573&author=-BB~Jordan-]

The thread isnt total m opinion, alot of it is fact, Marcus made both good and bad Tv, and Freddie did not play no victim card or whatever bad cr*p thats being made up. [/rquote]

Not a fact at all. [/rquote]

Look at the overall favourtie poll, think you find it is

I didnt make this thread to convince anybody to support Freddie, he has plenty, the most out all the HMs, I made it to point out there are people making up cr*p to make him bad, but i didnt really need to make it, polls are clear people arnt buying into it

[Captain.Remy]

[rquote=2568256&tid=147573&author=-BB~Jordan-][rquote=2568233&tid=147573&author=Captain.Remy][rquote=2568213&tid=147573&author=-BB~Jordan-]

The thread isnt total m opinion, alot of it is fact, Marcus made both good and bad Tv, and Freddie did not play no victim card or whatever bad cr*p thats being made up. [/rquote]

Not a fact at all. [/rquote]

Look at the overall favourtie poll, think you find it is

I didnt make this thread to convince anybody to support Freddie, he has plenty, the most out all the HMs, I made it to point out there are people making up cr*p to make him back, but i didnt reall need to make it, polls are clear people arnt buying into it [/rquote]

I don't take polls for a fact. People's opinions aren't facts to me so I don't give a damn about what people think, it's not a fact. Freddie evicted is a fact and the reasons are also facts. Try to make the difference between opinions and what's real. If he was that popular and if he was so winning the show, he wouldn't have been evicted. Simple as.

[Jords]

[rquote=2568264&tid=147573&author=Captain.Remy][rquote=2568256&tid=147573&author=-BB~Jordan-][rquote=2568233&tid=147573&author=Captain.Remy][rquote=2568213&tid=147573&author=-BB~Jordan-]

The thread isnt total m opinion, alot of it is fact, Marcus made both good and bad Tv, and Freddie did not play no victim card or whatever bad cr*p thats being made up. [/rquote]

Not a fact at all. [/rquote]

Look at the overall favourtie poll, think you find it is

I didnt make this thread to convince anybody to support Freddie, he has plenty, the most out all the HMs, I made it to point out there are people making up cr*p to make him back, but i didnt reall need to make it, polls are clear people arnt buying into it [/rquote]

I don't take polls for a fact. People's opinions aren't facts to me so I don't give a damn about what people think, it's not a fact. Freddie evicted is a fact and the reasons are also facts. Try to make the difference between opinions and what's real. If he was that popular and if he was so winning the show, he wouldn't have been evicted. Simple as.[/rquote]

Go on the other thread told you possible reasons why he might have gone other than him not being popular.

And he is way more popular than most of them HMs, check out the polls they are peoples opinions, check out his recptions, they are peoples opinions, check how close the % was, check how many sigs on his online petition that nobody else got even close to, get enough of peoples opinions and they become facts.

Fed up of discussing this with you now. Got work to do.

[staceyxxx]

freddie by milessss... we love you freddie,,
he always wanted the best for everyone... such an a amazing person.
we need more people like freddie in this world... xxxx

[staceyxxx]

freddie by far... come on... no one compares to him... or ever will. xxxxx

[Captain.Remy]

[rquote=2568289&tid=147573&author=-BB~Jordan-]
Go on the other thread told you possible reasons why he might have gone other than him not being popular.

And he is way more popular than most of them HMs, check out the polls they are peoples opinions, check out his recptions, they are peoples opinions, check how close the % was, check how many sigs on his online petition that nobody else got even close to, get enough of peoples opinions and they become facts.

Fed up of discussing this with you now. Got work to do.
[/rquote]

They're still opinions. Polls means nothing in this case. I know he's loved but if he was that loved then he wouldn't have been evicted in the first place. Just accept it and deal with it.

Thank God you're leaving. I'm so good.

[Jords]

[rquote=2568321&tid=147573&author=Captain.Remy][rquote=2568289&tid=147573&author=-BB~Jordan-]
Go on the other thread told you possible reasons why he might have gone other than him not being popular.

And he is way more popular than most of them HMs, check out the polls they are peoples opinions, check out his recptions, they are peoples opinions, check how close the % was, check how many sigs on his online petition that nobody else got even close to, get enough of peoples opinions and they become facts.

Fed up of discussing this with you now. Got work to do.
[/rquote]

They're still opinions. Polls means nothing in this case. I know he's loved but if he was that loved then he wouldn't have been evicted in the first place. Just accept it and deal with it.

Thank God you're leaving. I'm so good. [/rquote]

Your so argonat

Im leaving becuz I have work to do, tech if you must know,
not you, I can deal with idiots.

[Captain.Remy]

[rquote=2568337&tid=147573&author=-BB~Jordan-]

Your so argonat

Im leaving becuz I have work to do, tech if you must know,
not you, I can deal with idiots. [/rquote]

Yeah go learn the alphabet and spelling at the same time. And the idiot is not even English but still managed to have a proper debate with you (and also can in other languages) so check once again who's the idiot.

[Jords]

[rquote=2568344&tid=147573&author=Captain.Remy][rquote=2568337&tid=147573&author=-BB~Jordan-]

Your so argonat

Im leaving becuz I have work to do, tech if you must know,
not you, I can deal with idiots. [/rquote]

Yeah go learn the alphabet and spelling at the same time. And the idiot is not even English but still managed to have a proper debate with you (and also can in other languages) so check once again who's the idiot.[/rquote]

Dis iz da interwnet, u cn tlk like diz, but i dont, i abreviated because to becuz, I see no problem there tbh.
And im not an ace speller, getting petty with your comebacks now

Du bist ein Pimmelkopf.

[Captain.Remy]

[rquote=2568377&tid=147573&author=-BB~Jordan-][rquote=2568344&tid=147573&author=Captain.Remy][rquote=2568337&tid=147573&author=-BB~Jordan-]

Your so argonat

Im leaving becuz I have work to do, tech if you must know,
not you, I can deal with idiots. [/rquote]

Yeah go learn the alphabet and spelling at the same time. And the idiot is not even English but still managed to have a proper debate with you (and also can in other languages) so check once again who's the idiot.[/rquote]

Dis iz da interwnet, u cn tlk like diz, but i dont, i abreviated because to becuz, I see no problem there tbh.
And im not an ace speller, getting petty with your comebacks now

Du bist ein Pimmelkopf. [/rquote]

Like I said, check who's the idiot again. Oh wait, you just did and proved it.

And so are you. Вы - член также

[J-Rock]

Hahahaha. LoL at all this. Can't believe you two have literally made up the whole of two threads. Great reading guys, thanks!!

First off, BBJordan - stop worrying - there were only two posts I could see that had Freddie as worst HM - of course, they have a right to their opinion. The problem is that most FMs have gone now, so it is difficult to gage any 'generic' opinions or polls.

Captain Remy - you are entitled to your opinion and are indeed articulate in your theses. However, I do think you have been winding up poor Jordan a little. You ought to know better

Now for my view:

Freddie was the most consistently supported HM throughout the whole of BB10 and afterwards. The polls indeed show this aswell. He topped the TiBB poll, and was second to Marcus in the DS poll (over 3,000 votes in all, not a bad sample size).

He was evicted after a period where he became cocky and was under Bea's spell (partly her fault and partly his own responsibility - much of this was a reaction to the fact he had been isolated for a long time and finally found some support - a little 'rebound power' went to his head). He was also up against Marcus' fans and the fans of rival HMs-FTW. He was a threat. This played a part, but I do think he also got himself evicted because he did act like a tw@ at times during that short period that led up to the eviction.

However, in terms of all post eviction shows, the amount of warmth and support shown to him has been the most I have seen for any HM. Only Marcus comes close. Indeed, Freddie's support seemed to go up after his eviction in terms of the way he handled himself and accepted his faults (when interviewed etc.). It is only really Marcus and Freddie who have the 'fan-base' - i.e. forum support, facebook, messages on youtube etc...Not everyone likes them, but we all know they provided the most entertainment and storylines in the house.

After all the dust has settled, it will only be Marcus and Freddie (perhaps a touch of Noirin and Bea) remembered for BB10.

The worst HM: Hira (lovely girl, but very little contribution to anything in terms of storylines, entertainment)
The best HM: Freddie (but only just ahead of Marcus!)

[sooty]

Freddie and Marcus were nominated by housemates not by public. Unfortunately one of them had to go that week.
Freddie never doubted Marcus wanted to leave. He was naive to believe him.

He is not very good at reading poeple's mind unlike Marcus or may be Siavash. But he is very pure, sincere and warm hearted. I love Freddie. I believe polls are quite acurate.

BB10 = Freddie
Freddie should have won.

[Jords]

[rquote=2568521&tid=147573&author=J-Rock]Hahahaha. LoL at all this. Can't believe you two have literally made up the whole of two threads. Great reading guys, thanks!!

First off, BBJordan - stop worrying - there were only two posts I could see that had Freddie as worst HM - of course, they have a right to their opinion. The problem is that most FMs have gone now, so it is difficult to gage any 'generic' opinions or polls.

Captain Remy - you are entitled to your opinion and are indeed articulate in your theses. However, I do think you have been winding up poor Jordan a little. You ought to know better

Now for my view:

Freddie was the most consistently supported HM throughout the whole of BB10 and afterwards. The polls indeed show this aswell. He topped the TiBB poll, and was second to Marcus in the DS poll (over 3,000 votes in all, not a bad sample size).

He was evicted after a period where he became cocky and was under Bea's spell (partly her fault and partly his own responsibility - much of this was a reaction to the fact he had been isolated for a long time and finally found some support - a little 'rebound power' went to his head). He was also up against Marcus' fans and the fans of rival HMs-FTW. He was a threat. This played a part, but I do think he also got himself evicted because he did act like a tw@ at times during that short period that led up to the eviction.

However, in terms of all post eviction shows, the amount of warmth and support shown to him has been the most I have seen for any HM. Only Marcus comes close. Indeed, Freddie's support seemed to go up after his eviction in terms of the way he handled himself and accepted his faults (when interviewed etc.). It is only really Marcus and Freddie who have the 'fan-base' - i.e. forum support, facebook, messages on youtube etc...Not everyone likes them, but we all know they provided the most entertainment and storylines in the house.

After all the dust has settled, it will only be Marcus and Freddie (perhaps a touch of Noirin and Bea) remembered for BB10.

The worst HM: Hira (lovely girl, but very little contribution to anything in terms of storylines, entertainment)
The best HM: Freddie (but only just ahead of Marcus!)

[/rquote]

Haha my little rant with Remy was quite enjoyable if I must be honest.
And he did wind me up,and I was biting, Im 15 im a teenager,
course im gonna bite.

And how did I not think of Freddie being a threat to all the fans who want other HMs to win, thats a very very good reason why he may have been evicted, much better than my list, but I do believe my reasons would have occured in some situations.

Yeah Freddie did lose his rails toward the end, but I will not allow anybody to tell me he used the victim card, he clearly didnt.

And I agree, Freddie, Marcus, Noirin and Bea will be the best remembered this year, Freddie & Marcus for the good reasons, Noirin & Bea for bad.